Posted by Magna on 7/20/2007, 4:02 pm, in reply to "Re: Outline" "If you love your mother you'll never tell anyone. If you don't then you not respecting you mother as yourself. Then you will be damned for all eternity." --Previous Message--
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It doesn't... Like Hugh could learn that Holmes's mother had commited a horrid crime and covered it up or asked him not to tell. Playing poor little Holmes.
: Oh, that would be really sad. If you recall,
: in one of my oneshots, Holmes considered
: himself responsible for the death of his
: father. We could use that, or come up with
: something else. If we do the exact same
: thing with both of them, it might not seem
: realistic.
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: *thinks*
:
: Well, I guess we should try to decide would
: give Holmes and Hugh some common ground.
: Personal loss while so young could bring
: them closer.
:
: I was thinking maybe Hugh's would more
: effect if Hugh accidently killed his friend
: in self defense and hadn't told anyone the
: truth. Like it's a dark secret that tears at
: Hugh's soul.
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: Yowza! Freezers huh? Well, whichever you
: prefer...so, how do we go about this outline
: thing?
:
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: Snake-man hadn't come to mind. It better
: then what I was thinking of... I was
: thinking of just briefly telling Holmes that
: he would under go a temporary physical
: change and that Hugh was going to nearly
: freeze to death in a walk in freezer.
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: Yeah, like maybe a little flash of your
: snake-man idea or one of those.
:
: --Previous Message--
: Okay...
:
: We would have to out line the flashbacks
: first. Maybe throw in a flash forward for
: suspense. Like there might be a case in the
: future where something aweful might happen.
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: Oh, that would be really sad...but good.
: Yeah, I always hate when people think that
: Holmes would like some woman who tried to
: take over his job, like when they're all
: super smart? She's not stupid though, she
: just understands him. Like why he could
: never have a family or anything, & he
: finds out that she can't either for very
: similiar reasons.
:
: But anyway, I really like the flashback (or
: forward) ideas. We could just switch there.
: Like you would write Holmes' flashbacks
: & I would write Hughs, I guess.
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: It's okay... My Bilbo baby is my pet!
:
: You mean shes down to earth, pratical sorta
: character?
:
: One thing I thought about bringing up was
: Hugh's was going to be a brother two months
: after Hugh's being trapped in another
: reality.
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: rlol! Oh that sounds scary!!! I think I
: would
: have commited suicide!
:
: The few people who've read that story, have
: said they really liked it. But I never had
: them like run off & get married or
: anything like that. In fact, Watson saw the
: lady more than Holmes did. I thought she fit
: Holmes pretty well too. But she wasn't a
: macho female either. Sorry, I can start
: rambling when I talk about this story...it's
: rather my pet.
:
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: Sounds interesting. It might work.
:
: I understand completely. Being someone who
: role played a character who was unable to
: break up with the women he was dating,
: before even reaching fifteen. Man, I tried
: and tried and noone would let go. Try
: balancing a gypsy, vampire, demon and nymph.
: It's very hard to do.
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: Oh yeah, I remember that one.
: Well, I forbid you to laugh! But the scene
: would involve Holmes burying a wrapped body
: beside two older graves, or another one
: would be Holmes sitting beside the bed of a
: woman who dies there.
: It is a somewhat complicated storyline, but
: it's my own attempt at creating a woman who
: understood Holmes. There wasn't any romance
: or anything, I hate romance...lol
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: The story when a very young Sherlock Holmes
: and he tells her he knows what she did.
:
: Tell me about the scene.
: --Previous Message--
: Which one of mine are you talking about?
: Something I'd love to add would be a scene
: from a book I wrote but haven't posted or
: anything yet. It involves Holmes' views on
: women as well. It might be interesting.
:
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: One theory I've heard put forward, and from
: a
: short story you've written you may know what
: I'm talking about, about why Holmes doesn't
: like women.
:
: Perhaps Hugh sees Holmes discovering that
: his mother had commited a crime.
:
: Or much later in the future Hugh witness
: events that occurs when he's much older.
: Like Mycroft Holmes's funeral, or Waton's
: funaral. Holmes being alone. Seeing a family
: pass by and feeling loss for what he never
: had.
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: Oh yes, and Hugh could maybe see stuff that
: Holmes did in his first life. Then once
: they've switched back, they'll know all this
: stuff they aren't supposed to know.
:
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: Thats a thought...
:
: Like something that happened when Hugh was
: younger. Something traumatic.
:
: One idea I had was Hugh telling Holmes that
: he lost alot of his childhood innocence when
: I he witnessed a friend die while vactioning
: in the cottage out in Sussex.
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: Ooohhh...we are getting wild now, aren't we?
: I
: like it. Or maybe Holmes(in Hughs' body)
: could see things that Hugh had done in his
: real world, or things he will do. Like a
: little telepathy...or something like that.
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: I had an idea at one point of Hugh's
: subconscous as a part of the same person yet
: in like a seperate entity. Maybe while
: Holmes is in Hugh's body and unconous his
: has a discussion with it. It will almost be
: like a dream.
:
: Of course it would envolve emplying that
: Hugh may have supernatural abilites that he
: isn't aware of.
:
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: I like it. Done correctly, I think it will
: be
: great! Just as long as you do all the
: technical explanations, we should be fine,
: lol. The only thing that might warrant a
: little extra explanation will be the fact
: that this is something Hugh did on purpose.
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: Well, we could start them in the moring when
: Hugh would be going to school. Maybe a brief
: discussion with Holmes about how he's not
: eating much and barely sleeps, Holmes asking
: him to take it easier. Shows concern for he
: adopted child/son/ward. Breaks off after
: Hugh leaves and makes a comment to Watson.
:
: The field trip, the incident.
:
: Hugh comes home coughing, fever. Hugh tries
: to sneak in without drawing attention.
: Hoping Holmes is off on a case. Holmes is
: there though and heard the coughing, notices
: he looks flushed. Feels his forehead or
: tries to get Hugh to sit down, then the
: exchange of bodies.
:
: One of them calls for Watson's aid. Telling
: him to help the other to a chair and scan
: them for energy. They tell him what
: happened. Hugh in Holmes's body, fears
: Holmes's health, so afterwards he asks
: Watson to get Holmes a doctor.
:
: In between Watson being gone and coming back
: with doctor there is bonding, admissions and
: few funny comments. After which Holmes
: completely or partly loses consciouness.
: Hugh tends him, regreting what happened,
: then they switch back.
:
: Watson is finally back, the doctor cares for
: Hugh. Watson and Holmes talk abit.
:
: A few days later, Hugh is feeling better.
: Holmes and Hugh talk. Hugh calls Holmes
: "Father" as a sign of acceptance.
:
: The end
: Ideas?
:
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: Here is cool with me! Now down to business:
: what have you got so far?
:
: --Previous Message--
: I'll let you choose this time. If you like
: here is okay.
:
: We should probably talk story outline first.
:
: --Previous Message--
: I agree. You can email me if you think it
: would be easier, or we can use ff.net PM, or
: here is fine too! But I'm ready whenever you
: are!
:
: --Previous Message--
: When your ready let me know. Also we should
: talk ideas.
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: lol Yes, I can see how that might be
: frustrating.
:
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: I know I am.
:
: I just wish back then I knew how to put the
: girls down. My character, though lacking
: age, had a lot of women older then him
: interested in him. I couldn't find away to
: say no. I was too ashamed.
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: Oh, you make loads of sense! lol
: I used to do that in my own stories that I
: was writing as well. I'd put my characters
: thru all sorts of heck just because I was
: upset about something. Personally, I think
: we're nuts......
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: This discussion reminds me of when I was
: role
: playing. I kept beating my characters up for
: the fun of it. Poor Makato, who matchs Hugh
: in likeness and age, bore the the brunt of
: my aggression.
:
: The big difference is of course I could
: throw him into fights when ever I liked and
: I could make him keep going, even with blood
: dripping from every limb of his body.
:
: Story telling, if you did that Holmes
: wouldn't have to end up killing himself. The
: opening would finish him off before the
: story starts to make sense. Not that I make
: sense.
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