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Posted by Patrick Waller
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Posted by André Purenne # 0 (Nullte): Marriner (!!) and the Stuttgart SO. No joke, this is a magnificent reading and my preferred verison of this work. One last comment: in my opinion, Jochum's Bruckner is best experienced in the earlier, DG cylcle. It's both better played (performances of 1, 4, 7-9 are with the BPO and the rest with the Bavarian RSO) and recorded than the EMI Dresden cycle. Symphonies 1-3, 5 and 6 are as good as any other on the market. The more famous ones (4, 7-9) are also very good, but the competition is extremely fierce here. |
Posted by John Quinn A joint response from Patrick and I. Firstly, many thanks for your complimentary comments about our article. The response from yourself and the earlier one from Drasko are just the sort of things we hoped for. As you'll have seen, our article was just an attempt to share with others our enthusiasm for versions of these great works that we particularly appreciate. You have drawn everyone's attention to yet more versions that are clearly well worth hearing. (I assume you've also seen the separate contributions on the Message Board started by Tony Duggan?) I have to confess that I am unfamiliar with the various recordings that you list though I did hear some of the Jochum DG cycle on LP back in the 1970s. A very good friend of mine had the full set and these were probably some of the earliest Bruckner recordings I ever heard. It would be great if DG could see their way to reissuing them. At around the same time I guess, Jochum recorded much of the sacred music with Bavarian Radio forces and very fine these were. The recordings of the three Masses at least have made it onto CD in DG's Originals series (2 CD set 447 409-2) and if you haven't heard these I do recommend them strongly. You're absolutely right about Barenboim's two cycles. The Chicago set was his first one (for DG). The second one is with the Berlin Phil (Warner). This has just been reissued as a boxed set and Patrick is currently working on a review, which we hope will be on Music Web before long.
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Posted by André Purenne Regarding the reissue of the Jochum DG set, you seem to imply it's not yet on the market? It's been here (Canada) for a couple of years and is still widely available in one of their slim cardboard boxes ("Collectors Edition"). I should point out that the versions I offered to your attention are just meant to supplement your own recommendations (and Drasko's excellent list as well), not to replace them in any way. Indeed in many cases they may be seen as second, third or even fourth alternatives to mainstream ones. That is the glory of Bruckner's music. Once you fall under its spell, you're never content with just one point of view. After rereading all the articles I noticed my own very favourite Bruckner performance of any of his symphonies is not mentioned: the 8th by Böhm and the VPO (different from the very valuable Cologne version recommended by Drasko). Now available at mid-price on a single disc, it's a treasure not to be missed. Böhm's way with this work emphasizes its anguish and anger instead of its power and majesty. |
Posted by John Quinn Thank you for these further kind and interesting comments. When I replied to your earlier meesage I didn't know if the Jochum DG set was available. Thabnks for clarifying the situation; I've also now been told it's avilable in the UK. I hope we'll be able to include comment on it in an updated version of our survey. One question, if I may? A Bohm recording of the 8th was included in the volume devoted to him in EMI's Great Conductors of the twentieth century. Is this the same recording to which you refer?
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Posted by André Purenne But it's good you mentioned the Palixa Zurich 8th: although it's been praised to the skies by some reviewers, it's no match for either the Cologne or Vienna versions. This time around Böhm's conducting sounds impatient and the orchestra insufficiently upholstered, with strident brass. It's fully 8 minutes shorter than the VPO and some 2 minutes shorter than the Cologne.
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Posted by André Purenne |
Posted by Sonataman on March 14, 2005, 4:16 pm, in reply to "Re: Bruckner Symphonies Review" The following versions have provided much enjoyment and I would like any opinions on them: Symphony 7 Bruno Walter with the Columbia SO on RET 001 Sonataman
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