Posted by Gerry on 7/13/2009, 2:02 pm, in reply to "Re: What Landlords say"
So what do we as a group do about bad tenants.
We can not simply ignore the fact that they are making life difficult for us and landlords.
It appears to be the bad tenants that are turning the landlords against all of us.
Should we not be working to protect good tenants and exposing bad tenants.
--Previous Message--
: My only sticking point is that i'm in a fairly
: nice apt building in downtown toronto
: sometimes i feel that some of the people
: flat out shouldn't be there. I have a friend
: in the apartment across the hall who says
: the noise from the unit above him is insane!
: The man moved in sometime in Feb and was
: good for the first 2 months but now
: deliberately leaves his stereo on at loud
: volumes before he leaves for work. He's made
: the building management aware of this and
: they have said this is a case of a so called
: "professional tenant" not in the
: sense that he governs himself in a
: respectful manner but in the sense that he
: was know to have bounced around owing money
: at previous rental and knows the landlord
: laws all too well and uses it to his
: advantage, and this among others is his
: tactic. They say that the tenant actually
: has tribunal case out against THEM, for
: upkeep and has not paid rent since April. In
: a gorgeous upper class building in the middle
: of the downtown core i can hardly believe
: that there is anything significant wrong with
: his unit. When tenants are effecting
: tenants who do we fight against? the
: landlords? it's not their fault. something
: has to change to evict the bad tenants
: faster i think tenant should be able to take
: their neighbours to the tribunal! why let a
: couple bad apples ruin a building.
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: PS there's nothing you can do about noise
: complaints with police either. They knock on
: the door no answer, then say they can't go
: in the unit unless there's an emergency all
: they can do is issue a warning or a ticket
: (which like rent probably doesn't get paid)
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: --Previous Message--
: Its a very tough penalty to be evicted and
: lose your home. More than 69000 tenants
: faced that penalty in 2008. Many of them in
: dire financial circumstances beyond their
: control.
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: On the other hand, bad landlords can keep
: collecting rents, can keep letting their
: buildings go downhill, and can keep abusing
: human rights. And they can buy more
: buildings. That's why we need licencing and
: tougher enforcement of existing laws to
: protect good tenants.
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: --Previous Message--
: should there be tougher rules for bad
: tenants
: as well?
: are there bad tenants?
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: --Previous Message--
: As an organization, we stand with you for
: your
: rights, and try to help you resolve
: problems.
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: Other forums and other organizations are
: places where landlords and their friends
: will attack us - often completely without
: fact and too frequently without class.
:
: This does not mean, nor have we ever said,
: that all landlords are bad people. But some
: of them are - and we really feel sorry for
: their tenants. When i see the childish stuff
: some of them post, it makes me very worried
: for their tenants, and for the state of
: Canadian civility.
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: I even tried to dialogue reasonably on
: another Board and I failed miserably.
: Although there are some very good people on
: that Board with reasonable concerns - some
: of which we share - such as unfair tax
: practices - and some similar concerns with
: the LTB.
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: The irony is that the uncivil ones
: strengthen my resolve for landlord
: licencing, and improved services for
: tenants. Exactly what they hate.
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: We try to carry out our mandate, our
: mission, and our services with class (not
: that we are always perfect either).
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: One of our posters thinks we should expose
: them on this site. I respectfully disagree.
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: This is a site for tenants and we are here
: to help if we can. Silly debates with
: immature individuals is no help. Tougher
: rules to deal with bad landlords does help.
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: Together we are strong.
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