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Re: What Landlords say

Posted by Dan on 8/1/2009, 11:20 pm, in reply to "Re: What Landlords say"

I agree (I'm a tenant) that the tribunal does little to help landlords with bad tenants. I had fallen behind on my rent and went to talk to my landlord and he told me he would give me time to pay it, but that the system was so beaurocratic and removing tenants was so difficult that he had to proceed with the eviction order but that he would not actually enforce it unless after suffient time, I had not paid still. That sounded reasonable to me until I also realized I would be stuck with ALL the fees this process entailed. Eg: his lawyer, $150 filing fee etc. Can I blame my landlord for using a lawyer and incurring extra costs? No....because he does it for all his cases and I can't blame him having to navigate all these rules.

In the end, I had to pay hundreds of dollars in fees that were directly the result of government "protection". Had the landlord not had to jump hurdles to evict me if I didn't pay my rent, he wouldn't have had huge costs to pass on to me. I've lived here for several years and I know the landlord didn't want to evict me but he is running a business and already stuck his neck out over several months owing rent. Had he not gone through the long process to evict, he could have been on the line for several more months rent.

There are bad landlords but also bad tenants. IMO, the problem is the tribunal. It forces both sides to fight each other when often we could have come to our own private arrangements if it didn't put either party in precarious legal positions.

Message Thread:

What Landlords say - Dan McIntyre 7/11/2009, 5:12 pm
- Re: What Landlords say - Joe 7/12/2009, 2:54 pm
  - Re: What Landlords say - Dan McIntyre 7/12/2009, 4:29 pm
    - Re: What Landlords say - Ashley 7/13/2009, 12:04 pm
      - Re: What Landlords say - Gerry 7/13/2009, 2:02 pm
        
        Re: What Landlords say - Dan McIntyre 7/13/2009, 3:08 pm
        
        Re: What Landlords say - Ashely 7/13/2009, 5:35 pm
        
        Re: What Landlords say - Dan McIntyre 7/13/2009, 6:32 pm
        
        Re: What Landlords say - landlord2001 7/13/2009, 9:57 pm
        
        Re: What Landlords say - Dan 8/1/2009, 11:20 pm
        
        Re: What Landlords say - Ashely 7/14/2009, 12:32 am
        
        Re: What Landlords say - Dan McIntyre 7/13/2009, 11:50 pm
        
        Re: What Landlords say - landlord2001 7/14/2009, 9:06 pm
        
        Re: What Landlords say - Dan McIntyre 7/14/2009, 9:40 pm
        
        Re: What Landlords say - landlord2001 7/16/2009, 4:25 pm
        
        Re: What Landlords say - Dan McIntyre 7/16/2009, 5:07 pm
        
        Re: What Landlords say - Joe 7/14/2009, 10:36 pm
        
        Re: What Landlords say - Dan McIntyre 7/14/2009, 11:16 pm
        
        Re: What Landlords say - Wendy 7/15/2009, 10:05 pm
        
        Re: What Landlords say - TENANT 7/20/2009, 4:57 pm
        
        Re: What Landlords say - Gerry 7/13/2009, 3:51 pm
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--Previous Message-- : I agree (I'm a tenant) that the tribunal does : little to help landlords with bad tenants. : I had fallen behind on my rent and went to : talk to my landlord and he told me he would : give me time to pay it, but that the system : was so beaurocratic and removing tenants was : so difficult that he had to proceed with the : eviction order but that he would not : actually enforce it unless after suffient : time, I had not paid still. That sounded : reasonable to me until I also realized I : would be stuck with ALL the fees this : process entailed. Eg: his lawyer, $150 : filing fee etc. Can I blame my landlord for : using a lawyer and incurring extra costs? : No....because he does it for all his cases : and I can't blame him having to navigate all : these rules. : : In the end, I had to pay hundreds of dollars : in fees that were directly the result of : government "protection". Had the : landlord not had to jump hurdles to evict me : if I didn't pay my rent, he wouldn't have : had huge costs to pass on to me. I've lived : here for several years and I know the : landlord didn't want to evict me but he is : running a business and already stuck his : neck out over several months owing rent. : Had he not gone through the long process to : evict, he could have been on the line for : several more months rent. : : There are bad landlords but also bad : tenants. IMO, the problem is the tribunal. : It forces both sides to fight each other : when often we could have come to our own : private arrangements if it didn't put either : party in precarious legal positions. :

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