Posted by superlandlord2001 on 1/23/2012, 22:47:39, in reply to "Re: Take Your Rent Reduction"
That's right JAT $5-$25 as Dan mentioned, per month multiplied over 24 months as you mentioned.
So the tenant could owe anywhere between $120 to $600. As said if you are a tenant and you with-hold the disputed amount and do not have the $120 to $600 that is owed once the matter is settled then you will be considered in arrears of rent. And these are Dan and your numbers not mine, $5 to $25 per month and 24 months. For many tenants extra money is hard to come by. Some may not be able to put $5 to $25 in jar and plan for a successful variance application. Imagine a tenant trying to make ends meet all of a sudden being told they owe $120 or even worse $600. This could be financially crippling. One should be mindful of their ability to save and financially plan.
Again if you are a tenant dead set against "helping" your landlord under any circumstances then with-hold the disputed amount its your right. Is your landlord a good landlord or a bad landlord? Sometimes goodwill is met with goodwill and the inverse.
I think as a blossiming society we should put out some good karma rather just concentrate on enforcing rights and meeting head on with conflict.
--Previous Message--
: Once again the rep from the Landlord site is
: giving advice that helps landlords -- Is
: this guy soooo hard up for cash he needs the
: extra $5 a month, when he fully admits
: evicting tenants for a couple of bucks
: arrears?
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: Tenants need to exercise their rights when
: the rights come into effect. If tenants do
: not take the rent decrease when they are
: told to, they can forget and the time period
: of one year to take the decrease can expire.
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: I too have seen letters to tenants from
: landlords such as Briarlane saying "you
: are legally entitled to a decrease, but
: please continue paying more UNTIL I FILE AN
: APPLICATION for a variance (which in my
: opinion is the equivalent of an illegal rent
: increase). Dan is right, these applications
: can take upward of 24 months to be heard
: from the date of filing -- long after your
: rights to take the decrease have expired.
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: --Previous Message--
: Yes, there are paralegals that will help
: tenants deal with those variance requests.
: Dan McIntrye is one of those paralegals that
: can help. To the tenants reading this
: chances are i am not your landlord.
:
: Yes $5-$25 a month is not a lot that's
: roughly $1.25-$5.00 a week not a lot yes he
: is right that is a few bucks.
: A variance application according to Dan
: McIntrye can take 1 year. Using Dan's
: numbers of $5-$25/month a tenant should save
: anywhere from $60-$300 in the event that the
: variance is granted. Be it homeowner, tenant
: or landlord. Live pay cheque to pay cheque.
: Look deep down inside will you have the
: $60-$300 dollars? If yes keep the variance
: until you're told to pay, it's your right.
: If not maybe the landlord can help save it
: for you and give you back the difference if
: there is one after the hearing. Or if you
: don't think you can but you just object to
: "help your landlord" again it's
: your right to without the contested amount.
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: --Previous Message--
: our anonymous landlord friend is suggesting
: that a rent reduction of $5 to $25 a month,
: will lead to a huge amount having to be paid
: back. Wrong. Most of the won variances had
: to do with the new garbage levy...and that
: cant play that trick card twice.
:
: I certainly dont know of any evictions from
: the few bucks that landlords get back IF
: they make and win a variance.
:
: Other landlords are asking that it not be
: 20% but rather 15 to 17% based on the
: percentage of taxes to rent. Since rents
: have gone up much more than taxes, landlords
: have benefited and now dont want to share
: the full savings with their rent paying
: tenants. Those variances result in a minor
: change to the amount - a buck or two. And
: there are paralegals that will help tenants
: deal with those variance requests.
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: --Previous Message--
: Dan is correct the lawful rent is reduced
: under these circumstances and when the
: reduction is under appeal. Yes it is a
: tenants right to not "help" their
: landlord. If the appeal is successful then
: the tenant will owe the difference back to
: the landlord by a certain date. This is a
: process that takes many months, however many
: tenants stop saving for the event of a
: successful appeal and "worry about it
: later" or "deal with it
: then", Leading to many being evicted
: for failure to pay rent. I have had many
: tenants hold back the variance amount which
: they are entitled to do, then not have the
: funds when the variance appeal was granted.
: They claimed they tried to save the money
: but used it in the end for other expenses,
: they were evicted 2 months after my variance
: was granted. If you are not going to heed
: the landlords advice regarding the appeal
: and wish to keep the reduced rent amount
: make sure you save it and put it away
: because most variance appeals are granted
: completely or to some degree. Make sure you
: have this variance amount ready to be
: repaid. Conversely if you do pay this
: contested amount to your landlord you will
: receive a credit in rent if the Landlord and
: Tenant Board rules that the appeal is not
: successful or the amount owed to the
: landlord is less then you paid in.
:
: --Previous Message--
: About 140,000 tenant households have been
: entitled to a rent reduction effective the
: January rent payment. This is because the
: landlord has already received a reduction in
: municipal taxes.
:
: However, many tenants are being told by
: their landlord and/or a paralegal firm that
: they should be patient because the landlord
: might appeal and ask for what is known as a
: variance.
:
: Right now, this is your money if you
: received the letter from the City.
:
: Section 131 of the Act says that the lawful
: rent is reduced (no ands ifs or buts) and
: section 111 of the Act prohibits landlords
: from charging more than the lawful rent.
:
: Yes, the landlord could appeal under section
: 132 of the Act...but only if an appeal is
: successful can the lawful rent be reduced.
: These applications are often taking about a
: year to be processed. During that time, the
: landlord is breaking the law if they collect
: more than the lawful rent. Do not help your
: landlord by ignoring section 111 of the Act.
: Do realize that a successful appeal may
: mean you will owe them some money down the
: road, but you can deal with that then. Many
: of the appeals only reduce slightly the
: amount of rent reduction.
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