Jesse as Rich aint a great situation, but its better than some of the other alternatives. I still insist you underrate marvel's ability to just not use something forever..ala Genis-Vell.
Also we do have to be prepared for the possibility that even though we will find out what went on in the cancerverse...we may not get the final resolution of it there...it could drag on still.
We dont know the full deal with Jesse, why he was basically hiding out and a loser..or why he allowed Sam to get access to the helmet at such a young age. (BTW Sam's mom even more guilty here!) Yeah, i tend to agree that these are not good traits...but they are by no means deal breakers on salvaging the situation. So i dont know if we can fairly evaluate Jesse Alexander.
The Quasar "battle" was a lot different than this. First off Joe Q, ala speedball televised his disdain for that character (and why) about a year before his eventual death. At any rate, even though he came back and was a decent supporting character its not like it exactly led to a "golden era" of Wendell Vaughn either...he is basically dead again. Not even a mention in Infinity or all these cosmic events...it is inexcusable. I dont see it as the success story you do.
Personally, marvel does have some talented guys in their midst..DUggan doesnt interview well but he's a good writer. Yost has even acknowledged Namorita (even seemingly the DnA one) . Yost said today there was a chance he would bring back the original Night Thrasher as well.
Maybe we could even get Waid interested in taking on Nova or a Nova Corps book. I really loved his work with the Crossgen book Sigil, and the Saurians et al...He could really help marvel cosmic.
People forget Dan Slott is a pretty big continuity guy and used to write the old NW well in Avengers: The Iniative. If he takes a shine to cosmic in Silver Surfer, maybe he could get involved with Rider.
Marvel may be cold..but they are not filled with naive heartless bastards. Annhilation was recently voted the #8 Marvel event of all time by fans on newsarama. We need to keep sounding off! Personally, I see Loeb's influence waning and the possibility the movie creators are more on our side.
While I disagree with your "dont buy any of this" strategy...i think sounding off about wanting Rider back is the main thing we need to keep up. I think it would also help if GOTG sees a massive spike UP in sales...it would send a message to marvel we want RIDER.
I'm capable of dropping books..I've trimmed down quite a bit of my pull list in the past few months. Even though I do buy the books, I do have a breaking point as well. I'm almost done, however GOTG and the Jesse/ Black Nova corps situation is handled may make or break what i buy. I figure many of the 22k reading both these books are like me.
As for NW though, really its a good book and your missing out.
..and as I said lets not pretend that wrapping up the cancerverse is the only sin of this regime and the only reason we've been upset..the list is long and has been hashed out a zillion times.
I'm just not going to hold a grudge against Sam. I hated the new Blue Beetle for what he was and ended up liking the book. John Walker turned into one of my favorite characters of all time. Sometimes these things can work out...and Sam could be no different. It doesnt have to be about Loeb or SW anymore...
: I absolutely hate the idea of Jesse as
: time-displaced Rich. So Bendis further
: humiliates Rich by turning him into a fat,
: drunk, loser who can't take care of his
: family and who endangers his own son? Does
: that sound like the Rich we know and want to
: read about? Sound like the hero we know?
: Anybody here really want to see Rich further
: humiliated like that? Really?
: Even worse - if they age-regress him into
: Sam. Or split him into Sam and Jesse. Puke.
: More humiliation.
: If/When Bendis does this or some other
: humiliation treatment, will all of you still
: buying NINO and NeWINO finally join me in an
: organized boycott so we can kill NINO in
: retaliation? Will it make you angry enough
: or disgusted enough with how they've treated
: Rich and his fans that you'll do what needs
: to be done and kill NINO?
: I will organize a boycott to kill NINO and a
: campaign to bring Rich back. Whatever Bendis
: does can be undone. Marvel just has to be
: motivated to do it - and if we all join
: together and make an organized, concerted
: push - it can be accomplished.
: The Quasar fans didn't stand for the
: humiliation of their favorite character and
: they got him back. Why should we be
: complacent and stand for the humiliation of
: our favorite character? Why conclude that
: "efforts like that don't work" as
: some have already concluded - when the
: Quasar effort clearly did work? As have
: other similar efforts (Spider-girl, for
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: Oh, I don't like the looks of that...
: Who wants a torch or a pitchfork?
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: Here is the cover I think many of you will
: dread to see but courtesy of Marvel.com and
: NPP. The final fate of Rich Rider stands
: revealed?! Let the comments commence!
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