: ..oh and btw on the subject of a
: resolution...wouldnt surprise me with all
: this eye business if Shuma was the big bad
: of Original Sin...he is a giant amorphous
: eye after all.
: We will see but, personally even if we all
: ditch the book a few months from now I think
: getting a huge boost in sales, specifically
: for GOTG #18 is a better plan. Show marvel
: we want Rider stories.
: Insisting they kill off Sam and undo him
: totally is just too aggressive man...it will
: never win with those egos and how things
: work at marvel. Getting Rider alive and back
: in the fold should be our first priority
: ...and then we trust and continue to
: vocalize about his role till he's leading a
: damn A list Avengers team like he damn well
: --Previous Message--
: Yeah but I dont share your total views on
: Jesse as Rich aint a great situation, but
: its better than some of the other
: alternatives. I still insist you underrate
: marvel's ability to just not use something
: forever..ala Genis-Vell.
: Also we do have to be prepared for the
: possibility that even though we will find
: out what went on in the cancerverse...we may
: not get the final resolution of it
: there...it could drag on still.
: We dont know the full deal with Jesse, why
: he was basically hiding out and a loser..or
: why he allowed Sam to get access to the
: helmet at such a young age. (BTW Sam's mom
: even more guilty here!) Yeah, i tend to
: agree that these are not good traits...but
: they are by no means deal breakers on
: salvaging the situation. So i dont know if
: we can fairly evaluate Jesse Alexander.
: The Quasar "battle" was a lot
: different than this. First off Joe Q, ala
: speedball televised his disdain for that
: character (and why) about a year before his
: eventual death. At any rate, even though he
: came back and was a decent supporting
: character its not like it exactly led to a
: "golden era" of Wendell Vaughn
: either...he is basically dead again. Not
: even a mention in Infinity or all these
: cosmic events...it is inexcusable. I dont
: see it as the success story you do.
: Personally, marvel does have some talented
: guys in their midst..DUggan doesnt interview
: well but he's a good writer. Yost has even
: acknowledged Namorita (even seemingly the
: DnA one) . Yost said today there was a
: chance he would bring back the original
: Night Thrasher as well.
: Maybe we could even get Waid interested in
: taking on Nova or a Nova Corps book. I
: really loved his work with the Crossgen book
: Sigil, and the Saurians et al...He could
: really help marvel cosmic.
: People forget Dan Slott is a pretty big
: continuity guy and used to write the old NW
: well in Avengers: The Iniative. If he takes
: a shine to cosmic in Silver Surfer, maybe he
: could get involved with Rider.
: Marvel may be cold..but they are not filled
: with naive heartless bastards. Annhilation
: was recently voted the #8 Marvel event of
: all time by fans on newsarama. We need to
: keep sounding off! Personally, I see Loeb's
: influence waning and the possibility the
: movie creators are more on our side.
: While I disagree with your "dont buy
: any of this" strategy...i think
: sounding off about wanting Rider back is the
: main thing we need to keep up. I think it
: would also help if GOTG sees a massive spike
: UP in sales...it would send a message to
: marvel we want RIDER.
: I'm capable of dropping books..I've trimmed
: down quite a bit of my pull list in the past
: few months. Even though I do buy the books,
: I do have a breaking point as well. I'm
: almost done, however GOTG and the Jesse/
: Black Nova corps situation is handled may
: make or break what i buy. I figure many of
: the 22k reading both these books are like
: As for NW though, really its a good book and
: your missing out.
: ..and as I said lets not pretend that
: wrapping up the cancerverse is the only sin
: of this regime and the only reason we've
: been upset..the list is long and has been
: hashed out a zillion times.
: I'm just not going to hold a grudge against
: Sam. I hated the new Blue Beetle for what he
: was and ended up liking the book. John
: Walker turned into one of my favorite
: characters of all time. Sometimes these
: things can work out...and Sam could be no
: different. It doesnt have to be about Loeb
: or SW anymore...
: --Previous Message--
: I absolutely hate the idea of Jesse as
: time-displaced Rich. So Bendis further
: humiliates Rich by turning him into a fat,
: drunk, loser who can't take care of his
: family and who endangers his own son? Does
: that sound like the Rich we know and want to
: read about? Sound like the hero we know?
: Anybody here really want to see Rich further
: humiliated like that? Really?
: Even worse - if they age-regress him into
: Sam. Or split him into Sam and Jesse. Puke.
: More humiliation.
: If/When Bendis does this or some other
: humiliation treatment, will all of you still
: buying NINO and NeWINO finally join me in an
: organized boycott so we can kill NINO in
: retaliation? Will it make you angry enough
: or disgusted enough with how they've treated
: Rich and his fans that you'll do what needs
: to be done and kill NINO?
: I will organize a boycott to kill NINO and a
: campaign to bring Rich back. Whatever Bendis
: does can be undone. Marvel just has to be
: motivated to do it - and if we all join
: together and make an organized, concerted
: push - it can be accomplished.
: The Quasar fans didn't stand for the
: humiliation of their favorite character and
: they got him back. Why should we be
: complacent and stand for the humiliation of
: our favorite character? Why conclude that
: "efforts like that don't work" as
: some have already concluded - when the
: Quasar effort clearly did work? As have
: other similar efforts (Spider-girl, for
: --Previous Message--
: Oh, I don't like the looks of that...
: Who wants a torch or a pitchfork?
: --Previous Message--
: Here is the cover I think many of you will
: dread to see but courtesy of Marvel.com and
: NPP. The final fate of Rich Rider stands
: revealed?! Let the comments commence!
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