Although i do blame Tom Brevport more than most, he was involved in Annihilation and thus i just dont get it. i was reading some of his twitter or tumblr stuff responding to either you or stingerman..the Brevport response about Sam getting equal treatment to Rider in terms of proms was just astounding..I dont get it...but at least Tom B does handle himself with dignity and is a cooler head.
Theirs a lot of back room drama I wish in understood better. Like why didnt marvel keep Keith Giffen on board and what was the dynamic like after Annihilation. Why was Andy Schmidt scuffled off. We never got answers there.
Did you know Annihilation debuted going head to head with Civil War and the ad nauseum tie ins, DC's 5 issue (that month) 52, and DC's super hyped JLA#1 ? Still it was at 41 on the top 100.
Also whats up with DnA right now and their split?
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: Of course. I bought it when it was first
: released. I didn't think it was very good.
: I Vastly preferred the Rom and FF books that
: finished up Rich's story from that era.
:
: Now for a good Nova story that doesn't
: involve Rich, check out Uncanny Origins:
: Firelord. Firelord and Air-Walker were both
: Novas and that book tells their story.
:
: Brevoort and his cronies want to keep
: "Nova" a teen-aged goof-up. They
: weren't able to regress Rich to that after
: Annihilation, so they created NINO. Loeb
: and Bendis were happy to jump aboard - not
: because they ever had any interest in cosmic
: - but because they thought with the GotG
: movie, a lot of cash would be generated. It
: shows in the lack of quality in their work.
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: remember this?
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: --Previous Message--
: I'm not opposed to more Novas at all. I want
: a
: large and functioning Nova Corps with Rider
: as Nova Prime. Tom Brevoort is the one
: opposed to having a Nova Corps.
:
: I just don't want NINO. He's not really a
: Nova. Never been inducted. Never been
: emergency deputized by anyone empowered to
: do so. He's just an annoying NINO. I don't
: want a child playing at being a soldier as
: if soldiering were a video game. That's what
: we've got with NINO. And it's not worth the
: paper it is printed on. Can't wait until
: the trash is cancelled.
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: --Previous Message--
: When my friends kids come over to my house
: they always recognize Sam in my comic pile
: on my coffee table. The cartoons are giving
: him exposure more than this comic ever
: would. Sam is already a Disney property it
: seems for the young audience. Kids know him
: as Nova just like they associate John
: Stewart as Green Lantern because of the JLA
: cartoons. As upsetting as that is for long
: time Richard fans it's the truth.
:
: I do take some pleasure in the fact that at
: least they know Nova as a comic book
: character. Nova really was a deep cut
: character for a long time. I'm hoping at
: some point Rich can benefit from the extra
: exposure. I really don't see why we need
: only one Nova. There are tons of Green
: Lanterns. In the New Warriors they are
: already calling Sam "Kid Nova",
: which gives him a distinction.
:
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: I agree about the leash. This book would've
: already been cancelled if it was any other
: character. They are determined to push this
: character and build an audience. If only
: they had tried this hard with Rider Nova
: when Annihilation and Volume IV were going
: strong.
:
: I read yesterday that Feige has movies
: scheduled into 2028. Sure most of those are
: going to be Avengers, Thor, Cap, IM, Ant
: Man, and GotG sequels - but several are
: un-announced. One is speculated to be Dr.
: Strange. And I bet another one is NINO.
:
: Disney loves this NINO type crap. NINO is
: basically a re-tread of "The Last
: Starfighter" - a video game oriented
: movie. NINO includes lots of video game
: references too. It's a natural fit for
: Disney.
:
: The horror.
:
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:
: Maybe but no way to tell...the leash for
: this book is certainly going to be huge and
: will IMO dwarf the Captain Marvel and New
: Warriors examples I gave..they may let this
: book go to 10k.its kinda stabilized at the
: low 20s for now, but some very important
: arcs upcoming.
:
: They wont pimp him out like this summer and
: cancel the book that quick..espc with Nova
: Corps in the movie.
: --Previous Message--
: The sales figure released by Diamond is one
: aspect of the total of sales figure.
:
: There is also the digital sales figure that
: is most likely used by Marvel to add to the
: total sales figure of the current Nova
: series.
:
: The digital version of any comic book is
: cheaper to produce than the actual paper
: base comic book. The production of digital
: version by past the need for paper to
: produce the actual comic book and that could
: save a lot of money.
:
: If you add the two up the total sales might
: not be as bad as the stand along figure
: released by Diamond.
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: --Previous Message--
: They are really pushing NINO hard. He's in
: every major event, gets special issues,
: variant covers, in the new video games - and
: still scraping bottom per Diamond's sales
: stats. I'm telling you, something's in the
: works. Loeb has convinced or is trying to
: convince Disney to make a NINO kiddie movie
: based on his first arc in the NINO comic
: book. With Rocket riding a wave of
: popularity, he'll use that to sell Disney on
: the idea of NINO since Rocket has a
: prominent place in that first arc.
:
: The Horror.
:
: The Horror.
:
: Puke.
:
: --Previous Message--
: In related subject..in age of ultron #5 was
: there not a shot of Rich Rider looking Nova
: helm hanging on a wall in the sanctum of
: Nick Fury?
:
: Hmm..
:
: --Previous Message--
: Bendis said in an interview that he had this
: story planned since before NINO was even
: announced. Maybe he's telling the truth -
: maybe not. If he is, you can bet that all
: of us are putting in a lot more thought into
: how Rich might be alive and could come back
: than he did. At the time NINO was planned,
: Rich was discarded by Marvel Editorial,
: declared dead (rather than just temporarily
: marooned as DnA planned), and NINO was to be
: his REPLACEMENT. Emphasis on REPLACEMENT.
: As in Hal Jordan REPLACING Alan Scott - not
: just as Kyle Rayner keeping the uniform warm
: for a decade until a better writer brought
: the better GL back. I see no evidence that
: the thinking at Marvel Editorial has
: changed. Bendis is likely to just tell a
: story of how Rich bravely sacrificied
: himself. I think Rich being brought back to
: the 616 in any satisfying way is unlikely as
: long as NINO is still around and they're
: trying desperately to turn NINO into a huge
: moneymaking success with all the promo,
: variants, crossovers, guest stars, specials,
: etc. (everything Rich DIDN'T RECEIVE). Loeb
: obviously wants to make NINO into a Disney
: kiddie movie and he's going to try
: everything to sell NINO to make that happen.
: The only way we see Rich coming back in any
: satisfying way is for NINO to fail miserably
: - as in sales falling from 21K to 15K - AND
: for the GotG movie to be a raging success
: causing Marvel to expand cosmic and
: capitalize on the appearance of the Nova
: Corps in the film.
:
: --Previous Message--
:
: Maybe..getting Rich back is too good to be
: true! I think RIder wuld have been a bit
: more responsible than to let a 15 get ahold
: of a helmet that gives out near prime type
: powers.
:
: wow they are pimping Sam this summer! I wish
: Rider got one shot bonus books with Xmen and
: Iron Man or being on the cover of all these
: bonus marvel books.
:
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: --Previous Message--
: I think that you are really looking to much
: into what Cosmo said. I believe he was just
: merely stating that he missed Rich.
:
: --Previous Message--
: Its possible...the Saal appeareance w/
: Tarcel
: was never explained..could have gone a
: million ways and even just been a
: hallucination of a dying or dead tarcel.
:
: I still think Rich as Jesse lines up
: easier...and the biggest piece of evidence
: was when Cosmo flat out basically said Rich
: was Jesse in fairly plain terms.
:
: I did have some crazy idea that maybe the
: whole Alexanders were elements of WOrldmind.
:
: I'm excited to see the secret of the Black
: Nova Corps though.
:
: --Previous Message--
: True. However, what if the Saal that
: appeared
: to Malik Tarcel wasn't the real Saal but was
: the avatar/brain pattern of Saal that had
: been in the WorldMind (like Ko-Rel's).
:
: Saal's pattern would have been the avatar of
: the corrupted portion of the WorldMind that
: was removed at the end of #25 and replaced
: with Ko-Rel's.
:
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: --Previous Message--
: There is one thing you've forgotten - Saal's
: appearance in Nova 29 when he encountered
: Malic Tarcel during War of Kings. Even so
: there's no reason if the regular Nova Corps
: would mention the existence of a black-op's
: version.The main thing is are current
: creators taking past continuity into account
: anyways - so assuming they aren't - Sam has
: to get his power somewhere and if not from
: the Worldmind (which was supposed to be shut
: down after TTI) then yes its plausible Saal
: could be an alternate source.
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