With Rich, because over time his body became so dependent on having the Nova Force within him at such high levels, when separated, his body structure actually began to fail/die - so in effect Nova Force is a symbiotic relationship between "host" and "force", one cannot remain without the other - though goign back to lower ranks its likely that the relationship, health factor is less so they could be parted from their "sliver" of Nova force without any terminal effects.
Now obviously we've never seen Rich have family, have kids and so on; we do know his "benefactor" Rhomann Dey way back in Man Called Nova Vol.1, 1976 - issue 8 who deputized Rich in an "emergency procedure" as he was on the point of dying was married to Karman-Kan and had 2 children, Duranna and Kahry, though again we've never seen them, let alone know what sex they were. All we know for sure is that they died when Xandar was destroyed by Zoor - Dey wanted revenge and tracked him back to Earth, transferred his powers to the most "worthy" person appointed - by "random choice" and that's how the whole thing began.
However with Dan Abnett introducing Rael Rider in Guardians 3000, which okay is a bit of a temporal headache because its not certain of events are either in the 619 post SW or in an alt universe or such - so for easy sake lets assume Rael is either a future descendant of Rich or Robert Rider; if that is the case then its pretty likey, since Dan establised fact back in his Nova run that Rael inherited some gene marker from her parents for her to access the Nova Force and become a Centurion. Its somethig I like to see clarifed! So yes Sam could have the same gene marker from Jesse during his time when he was a Centurion himself which gives him the "key" to unlock his access to Nova Force - BUT I really wish, like ThanosRules, that new writers like Duggen would adhere to what is already fact from our era,rather than make up new concepts. For more on this -i really recommend any new fan to go to NPP and download the Rocket Boosters fanzines - here's the link - http://www.novaprimepage.com/fanzine.asp and its free!
--Previous Message--
: So does it have to do with "sliver of
: Nova force" inside Jesse that might
: pass on to his kids. I mean he used to be a
: gold dome Centurion before he became a
: member (later, the black ops leader) of
: Black Novas.
:
: --Previous Message--
:
: Let's also remember Rich had a cosmic cube
: inside him. He was also still stuck in a
: reality that BmB showed as being impossible
: to die.Rich never said he would use up his
: power..just that he was the "door"
: so he couldn't follow.
:
: We forget also Duggan described the source
: of Sam's powers to hack in to the Nova
: force...ergo the Nova Force still exists.
:
: But once again here is where I diss the
: writing and say I have no hope of seeing any
: of these observations hold up or have much
: significance...
:
: As I've said Rich, based on his
: "death"
:
: Rich is one of the easiest characters to re
: vive ever.
:
:
: --Previous Message--
: Energy cannot be created or destroyed - but
: it
: can be transmuted into other forms. Likewise
: according to quantum string theory, energy
: can be transposed into alternate planes so
: to say Rich's form has been forever rendered
: inert is pushing the boat a bit. Sure he
: allowed a massive percentage of his Nova
: Force allocation to be spent to create a
: gateway between dimensions but fact is Brian
: Mindless Bendis doesn't or wouldn't have a
: clue how Rich's powers work. Rich opened
: gateways on many an occasion - he actually
: opened his first trans-warp portal way back
: in Marvel 2 in One - well before he gained
: the Nova Prime status. And it didn't rend
: him into limbo. Only certain Marvel Execs
: rendered him into the null zone. I've been
: reading some Nova fans fics at
: http://archiveofourown.org - ignore the
: "adult versions" and some of them
: have had really plausible ideas that could
: well bring him back, either using already
: established MU macguffins or current quantum
: physics laws. In the end anything is
: possible with a bit of imagination-
: something sadly BMB doesn't have!
:
: However addressing the Xandarian/Terran
: concept - its something fans have mooted
: several times during Rich's era - after all
: was Rhomman Dey's selection of Rich as
: "random" as everyone thinks.
: Xandar may have had several colonies during
: the Enpire period (see Rocket Boosters for a
: good article on this subject) - they had
: well established off-world FTL capabilities
: so was Earth a colony for some Xandarians -
: after all Earth has attacted other parties -
: such as Kree so why not them?
:
: --Previous Message--
: Well, I hate to say this but he was used his
: Nova Force to let Peter Quill and Drax to
: escape from Cancerverse with Thanos jumping
: out unintentionally (Original Sins). Meaning
: that he might be gone for good.
: On Sam Alexander,
: Either alternate dimension or Phoenix
: thinking that all Novas were wiped out or
: deactivated since Blacknovas were kind of
: "cut off" from Worldmind. Or
: thinking that Xandarians cannot have babies
: with humans (genetic tinkering? forbidden
: interspecies romantic liaison?). I am not a
: big fan of alternate dimension theory.
:
: --Previous Message--
: Welcome to NMB! As far as this forum goes,
: its
: for all Nova fans; okay it began as a Rich
: forum when NPP (Nova Prime Page) began back
: in 1998 and yes Rich will always be
: "top dog" to many that frequent
: here - esp us old guard. However, as a Rich
: fan for well over 40 years, myself and
: Nova64 recognize that fan bases gain new
: facets. We run a strict no bully policy here
: - because in the end everyone can have their
: say about their particular Nova they follow.
: Some folks that used to post here we're
: unfortunately not wishing to comply to the
: NMB forum rules and those same guidelines
: also apply to other foums on Boardhost. As
: long as folks are friendly we don't mind
: good intense debates.
:
: I will admit openly I'm not particularly
: fond of Sam Alexander - its just a direction
: that hasn't clicked with me; I'm too fond of
: old buckethead - as empahized in my own
: version - Nova619; but as we've endevoured
: to try, there is no real reason the MU can't
: have 2 or more Novas zipping around in the
: multiverses. That can only change as/when
: certain Execs at Marvel recognize that, so
: that's why we set up the I-petition at NPP.
:
: Regarding the Sam/Jesse half Xandarian
: concept; well remember back in AVX
: Cyclops/Phoenix mentioned he sensed Sam
: "wasn't supposed to be here" i.e
: suggesting Sam didn't belong to the 616
: reality. Ultimately it depends if current
: writers opt to pick such plot ideas up; I
: mean I keep hoping Dan Abnett will address
: the Garthan Saal appearence back in Nova
: 25/Vol.4; or finally explain where the hell
: Robert Rider is. With Rob's recent mention
: in Nova 29, Vol.5 if anyone is able to take
: the Nova Prime mantle on- it's Rob, but hey
: in the end I'll always prefer Rich to come
: back; no one dies in comics forever! Maybe
: one day both he and Sam will meet; maybe oen
: day Rich gets another shot; that way
: everyone gets what they want. Their own Nova
: to root for!
:
: So welcome, and look forward to future
: posts!
:
:
:
:
: --Previous Message--
: Cool theory’s my friend!!! Seems to fit into
: the story well enough, I see no problems
: with it... hmmm... Sam Alexander...
: Alexander... Ale Xander... Xandar. I think
: am going a little to far with the
: Xander-Xandar thingy though . But your
: idea is cool t209!!!
:
: Am a BIG Sam fan and am very reluctant to
: post here on this forum at all, being viewed
: as part of that group that is, if I may
: quote: “interlopers, not fellow Nova fans.”
: (in·ter·lop·er: a person who becomes
: involved in a place or situation where they
: are not wanted or are considered not to
: belong.)
:
: Am a real fan, and a real person too!!! Am
: not part of any “Disney/Marvel consortium”
: out to harm Rider folks. Though that's an
: idea... (pretending to be part of the evil
: Disney/Marvel war machine) I've thought
: about having fun with this, give those who
: are irrational something to feed on.
: Irrational is not my descriptor, but if some
: wish to lay claim to it... well that's their
: business. But you know maybe the Goldwater
: quote with a twist “Extremism in the defense
: of Rider is no vice. And moderation in the
: pursuit of his return is no virtue.” that
: line of thinking is way better. If anything
: it's better than being irrational. It could
: be a little inside joke too, but from what
: I’ve read irrational is spot on. Again am
: not Gerry Duggan, I play the game Marvel
: Heroes from time to time (my Nova is maxed
: out), Am not 12 years old (just behave like
: it), not an intern, not a Marvel /Disney
: employee, am not an alien. At this time I
: have a whole 19 posts on Marvel Heroes 2015
: forums and 73 on CBR (and a lot of these are
: pictures). If I were any of these things I
: need to do a better job spamming. I do have
: real job and real life, and have better
: things to do with my time rather than spend
: it spamming forums. But there are times like
: few months back on the Marvel Heroes 2015
: forums when some friendly hard core Rich
: folks and I had a nice dialogue between us.
: Here is a little of my part of it:
:
: “I am a fan of Sam and on that I stand. I
: have no animosity towards Rich, for Rich is
: the Nova Corps personified. To hate Rich is
: to hate Sam in part… from MY POINT OF VIEW.
: Could Marvel put out a (NEW) NOVA PRIME
: (Rich) title along with my NOVA (Sam), with
: interaction between the two? I have no
: problem with it, and would welcome it. I
: would get more Sam stories (with interaction
: between the two) and in the end that’s what
: I want, more Sam stories. “
:
: My point is am NOT at odds with Rich, or
: Rich folks... I just really enjoy Sam, and
: some find that quote: “disgusting“ .
:
: Not sure if posting a few links is ok but my
: website will give folks an idea of what I do
: (these are 3D models, when I get that 3D
: printer look out):
:
: http://www.windswords.org/NX/NX.html
:
:
: Also years ago I made some WINDOWS truetype
: fonts on a some sci-fi stuff. Feel free to
: check out the page (do not install if you do
: not know what you are doing):
:
:
:
: http://www.windswords.org/omega/omega.html
:
:
: My first post here btw and am sorry for this
: refute of accusations rant, awful way to
: start off.
:
: Anyway take care folks...
:
: Vak (a mindless zombie of the Sam brigade)
:
: BTW I never was fond of the New Coke, but I
: did love the 7UP Gold from years ago!!!
:
: --Previous Message--
: I just had a speculation that Sam
: Alexander's
: dad Jesse might be humanoid alien
: (Xandarian, Spartoi, Pink Kree,or mixed from
: them).
: - Titus called the humans as "these
: humans" rather than "Jesse's
: kind".
: - Either High Evolutionary's minions comment
: of "Human Hybrid" meant the
: monster that Sam was fighting or Sam
: himself.
: - Possible fast healing (Xandarians had
: them, according to Fantastic Four),
: Novaforce, or comic book logic.
: Heck, maybe it will make some storyline
: where Jesse is basically the last Xandarian
: alive in the galaxy and his alcoholism might
: be result of his realization.
:
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