Spidey and Rich all went through those kind of lumps....however both of them had grown after a few issues. They both had a "With great power comes great responsiblity moment".
From what I've heard, Marv Wolfman intended Rich to have been there at the end of his volume 1 Nova series.Yet he was retrograded a few times.
Sam needs to grow...as long as he's just this obligatory teen buffoon of the group he struggles and will struggle to find fans.
: Well said.
: I do think there is one "problem"
: with Sam in that he is more or less a screw
: up. The constant theme in his adventures is
: that he cannot handle the power he has and
: he consistently makes things worse.
: This may be by design. Perhaps I am not the
: target audience but I want a hero I can root
: What I am hoping is that this weakness turns
: into a strength in some sort of
: mentor/protoge relationship with Rich.
: And heck, even have Same outshine Rich from
: time to time and show that the young heroes
: have good ideas, too.
: --Previous Message--
: Agreed Scott. Now that my boycott is over,
: going to check out a few titles I missed.
: This from my blog:
: So it appears we have finally got Rich
: back, and Marvel has officially confirmed
: there will be a new Nova series with both
: Rich Rider and Sam Alexander. This is good
: While it remains to be seen how this
: resurrection will be executed and what
: exactly the, as yet-unnamed creative staff
: has planned, for now, I think I will just
: take the high road and enjoy the moment.
: For once in a long while, I’m happy and
: excited for the future.
: A lot of us fans put in some hard hours of
: b###hing, grumbling, and most
: important….dogged support for our boy Rich,
: that it is really special to see this
: unfortunate period end. Even still, despite
: the “war of words” and missing years, I am
: appreciative and thankful to Marvel for
: choosing to bring back Rich. So too, I will
: honor my word and “Make Mine Marvel” once
: I’m proud we didn’t let something created
: and built up by so many talented folks rot
: away and be left for dead. Just as much as
: we didn’t let Rich silently fade away, we
: did not let the work of men like Wolfman,
: FabNic, Giffen and DnA go to waste.
: Did we do any good?
: I’d say yes. I don’t know if we would have
: got Rich back quicker if we would have been
: more passive and quiet, but I can say we
: achieved something important. This was
: especially apparent when Axel Alonso himself
: said the other day at SDCC “We are well
: aware of the love for Richard Rider”. That’s
: a big change from the dismissive stuff (four
: fans?) we all saw in the past. Frankly, it
: shows me we have moved that dial with our
: As I’ve said before, a lot of people stuck
: their figurative necks out to move that same
: stubborn dial … maybe even more than we
: know. We Rider faithful have been called
: names and accosted by the zombies and the
: most zealot-like of the newfangled Sam
: Alexander supporters…maybe, to be fair, we
: slung some mud ourselves. Many of us have
: been rooted out from message boards and cast
: off as jerks, racists or worse.
: That being said, this is not a pity
: party….it’s a “welcome back home”
: celebration for an old friend. As for those
: Sam fans, with the announcement it looks
: like for now we will all get to go on
: A word about Sam Alexander: In many ways,
: there was nothing wrong with the notion of
: Sam or a young brash Nova figure. There was
: nothing wrong with many of the broader ideas
: the Sam material wanted to do. Truthfully,
: the Black Nova concept was a solid idea that
: I had high hopes for. Instead, what was
: wrong was the execution. All of those ideas
: of mine regarding what went wrong there have
: been laid out on this blog. As we move
: forward, surprisingly…I am up for Sam
: Alexander…but dammit, the character needs to
: be fixed. With Rich back, for once, I’m
: hopeful we can see that happen.
: Bill Rosemann and Andy Lanning had been
: vocal and supportive of us and of the
: character. I wish I heard more of Dan
: Abnett’s opinion, but I know he supported us
: all the same.
: As I said in my prior post, Cosmic Book News
: has been one of the only major fan sites to
: support us, I want to personally thank Matt
: McGloin and his site for what they did and
: sacrificed to move that dial. I know this
: choice may have made them somewhat of a
: pariah at Marvel Comics or the greater
: zombie community….but I think it was an
: exceptionally brave and bold path to follow.
: It’s important to stick up for material and
: creators that resonated and were meaningful.
: Its important to stand up for good comics.
: CBN’s stance here was an example to follow.
: Other fan sites like the Nova Facebook Page
: and Daz’s Nova 619 have worked to get Rich
: back and to show the fan support for the
: character. Those pages and the fans who
: support them are love letters to Richard
: Rider and it really is unique. So too, I
: appreciate the history of the Nova Prime
: Page run by Doug Smith.
: As a final note, I want to say there are no
: regrets from me. I don’t take back one
: thing…including my concerns about Marvel
: Comics. Marvel is in strange shape these
: days and many of the stories are far too
: divisive and political. Some of that does
: not appear to be changing….and may, in fact,
: be getting worse. I’m worried…and I will
: still be very opinionated and honest with my
: That includes the mire that Wendell Vaughn
: aka Quasar is still stuck in. I’m going to
: continue my support for that character as
: well . We need him back too.
: But today is a good day. Maybe just maybe, I
: can find a few solid Marvel titles again,
: books like Nova… that give me that escape
: and enjoyment I once loved about the company
: so much.
: How great it is to think about ideas and
: stories once more.
: So once more, I’m proud to say “Long Live
: Richard Rider” AND “Make Mine Marvel” and
: let’s see what that future has in store.
: --Previous Message--
: With Rich's return it is time to put our
: money where out mouths have been.
: Support Rich in any way. Buy every issue.
: If he guests in another comic, buy that.
: Buy more than one and give to a friend, if
: you can.
: We have clamored for years for this. We're
: being given what we wanted. Now will be the
: time to show the strength of our fandom.
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