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Re: Ari's Fraulini 12 string

Posted by Tom on April 9, 2008, 7:13 pm, in reply to "Re: Ari's Fraulini 12 string"
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Hey, John, we pulled the trigger at the same time! Sound advice, as always..and you could extend your idea one further by suggesting a phone conversation w/ Neil or Mike H., too, who both have been around the block w/ a 12 string or two, Neil, too, surfs the weenie site ..can't wait to see the weenie info.. ;-)
Regards, Tom

--Previous Message--
: Hey Pete,
:
: It's been a while since I played Ari's
: Fraulini, so I can't really compare it to
: anything, and I've never played a Hauver.
: Ari's sure sounds good in his hands.-G-
:
: I think that having Todd build you a guitar
: would be a great experience. You needn't
: make up your mind about all the variables
: before you talk to him. Probably no one can
: describe the differences in sound between
: Mahog and Birch, pin bridge or tail piece,
: as well as Todd himself, so you might as
: well start the dialogue.
:
: Personally, I favor a 6 pin bridge, but
: that's because my Sovereign has one. That
: said, I couldn't really tell you the sonic
: difference, but I think that a pin bridge
: stresses the top more, which is a good thing
: for sound transference. And with a 6 pin
: (two strings in each hole) there is less
: perforation of the top, so I believe the
: bridge plate can be lighter.
:
: Todd first built only tail piece 12s until
: Paul Geremia asked him to build a pin bridge
: 12 a few years ago. I was one of the folks
: Todd quizzed while doing research on the
: brace placement of pin bridge 12s. I pulled
: the strings off the Sov and used a mirror to
: measure the placement in respect to the
: sound hole.
:
: I see you have joined up over at Weenie
: Campbell, too. That would be an excellent
: place to get more opinions about ladder
: braced 12s as there are many owners there,
: and you will probably get a response from
: Todd himself.
:
: Take care,
: John C.
:
: --Previous Message--
: Hey Tom,
:
: Thanks for the info! I'm familiar with
: Mahogany as a tonewood, but how would you
: describe Oak as a tonewood? Or Birch? I
: believe Tom Cambio also uses Birch. How
: about pin bridge vs. tailpiece. Can you
: describe the sound differences between a pin
: bridge and a tailpiece? I'm leaning towards
: a Fraulini Angelina 12 string model -
: mahogany w/tailpeice. Tough to decide
: without playing them!
:
: Thanks again,
: Pete
:
:

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--Previous Message-- : Hey, John, we pulled the trigger at the same : time! Sound advice, as always..and you : could extend your idea one further by : suggesting a phone conversation w/ Neil or : Mike H., too, who both have been around the : block w/ a 12 string or two, Neil, too, : surfs the weenie site ..can't wait to see : the weenie info.. ;-) : Regards, Tom : : --Previous Message-- : Hey Pete, : : It's been a while since I played Ari's : Fraulini, so I can't really compare it to : anything, and I've never played a Hauver. : Ari's sure sounds good in his hands.-G- : : I think that having Todd build you a guitar : would be a great experience. You needn't : make up your mind about all the variables : before you talk to him. Probably no one can : describe the differences in sound between : Mahog and Birch, pin bridge or tail piece, : as well as Todd himself, so you might as : well start the dialogue. : : Personally, I favor a 6 pin bridge, but : that's because my Sovereign has one. That : said, I couldn't really tell you the sonic : difference, but I think that a pin bridge : stresses the top more, which is a good thing : for sound transference. And with a 6 pin : (two strings in each hole) there is less : perforation of the top, so I believe the : bridge plate can be lighter. : : Todd first built only tail piece 12s until : Paul Geremia asked him to build a pin bridge : 12 a few years ago. I was one of the folks : Todd quizzed while doing research on the : brace placement of pin bridge 12s. I pulled : the strings off the Sov and used a mirror to : measure the placement in respect to the : sound hole. : : I see you have joined up over at Weenie : Campbell, too. That would be an excellent : place to get more opinions about ladder : braced 12s as there are many owners there, : and you will probably get a response from : Todd himself. : : Take care, : John C. : : --Previous Message-- : Hey Tom, : : Thanks for the info! I'm familiar with : Mahogany as a tonewood, but how would you : describe Oak as a tonewood? Or Birch? I : believe Tom Cambio also uses Birch. How : about pin bridge vs. tailpiece. Can you : describe the sound differences between a pin : bridge and a tailpiece? I'm leaning towards : a Fraulini Angelina 12 string model - : mahogany w/tailpeice. Tough to decide : without playing them! : : Thanks again, : Pete : : : :

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