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Alfalfa Hay with Nutgrass ? Posted by mynagah on 10/20/2009, 8:32 pm 72.173.97.139 Okay we have been offered a crazy deal to get alfalfa hay that has some nutgrass mixed in with it. Most bales have less than 10%, but some will have mostly nutgrass. All we can find out about nutgrass is that it is an invasive weed grass that won't grow well at our house. The vet said he doesn't know of any risk of toxicity (like with sudan hay). Does anyone know of any risk of nutgrass (cured and baled) to horses, goats, sheep, or llamas ? The sample bale he sent home with us was devoured happily tonight.  Post a Response

I don't but I wish it didn't grow at my house! Posted by Dr Thunes on 10/20/2009, 8:57 pm, in reply to "Alfalfa Hay with Nutgrass ?" 75.210.255.159 I have no info on it being fed to livestock I'm afraid but I do know all about it growing in my yard, it is pretty much my entire lawn. My understanding is that 1 nut can ultimately invade vast areas. FYI it is not actually grass it is a sedge. That might help you in your investigations. Clair Independent Equine Nutritionist, Equilibrate Equine Consulting, www.equilibrateequine.com clair@equilibrateequine.com  Post a Response

Step away from the hay! Nut grass is NASTY stuff Posted by FriesianMom on 10/20/2009, 9:30 pm, in reply to "Alfalfa Hay with Nutgrass ?" 207.200.116.7 and will take over your pasture from pass thru (manure). Not something you want. My hubby is screaming from the front room. He is a licensed herbicide control operator.  Post a Response

Good point!! Practically nothing kills it Posted by Dr Thunes on 10/20/2009, 11:51 pm, in reply to "Step away from the hay! Nut grass is NASTY stuff" 75.211.151.80 at least not anything you's want near your veggies or horses for that matter. While you would think there shouldn't be a chance of it as there shoulnd't be any roots in the hay you never know and it only takes one nut and you are doomed. Ask my neighbor who transplanted a plant from her infected back yard to her front yard. I was sieving the nuts out of my garden and gave up. I removed 12 inches of soil last year from my veggie patch and replaced it and the darn stuff grew up through 18 inches of new soil. This year i created raised bed and it grew up through more than 2ft! Clair Independent Equine Nutritionist, Equilibrate Equine Consulting, www.equilibrateequine.com clair@equilibrateequine.com  Post a Response

friends in the east use sugar on it (yes the white stuff) also a product is Posted by jumps for joy on 10/21/2009, 8:05 am, in reply to "Good point!! Practically nothing kills it" 173.67.123.136 | Message modified by user jumps for joy 10/21/2009, 8:06 am available which I can not think of the name of which is the main ingredient in corn syrup that is sold at nurseries in some states.  Post a Response

Just read that online too Posted by TBJMPR2 on 10/21/2009, 10:56 am, in reply to "friends in the east use sugar on it (yes the white stuff) also a product is" 209.78.56.72 It said to wet the grass, sift sugar onto it then wet down again. If riding were all blue ribbons and bright lights, I would have quit long ago. ~ George Morris  Post a Response

Wow if this works I will be soooooo happy Posted by Dr Thunes on 10/21/2009, 12:38 pm, in reply to "Just read that online too" 128.120.218.130 you have no idea. My whole lawn is this stuff. Ok in the summer when green but aweful right now. can't wait to try this. Does temperature matter? Clair Independent Equine Nutritionist, Equilibrate Equine Consulting, www.equilibrateequine.com clair@equilibrateequine.com  Post a Response

This website Posted by Gail Ivey on 10/21/2009, 10:55 am, in reply to "Good point!! Practically nothing kills it" 66.245.45.194 claims sugar can kill nutgrass.http://www.howtogetridofstuff.com/outdoor/how-to-get-rid-of-nut-grass/ "Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others have labored hard for." - Socrates  Post a Response

Re: Good point!! Practically nothing kills it Posted by gallipolo on 10/21/2009, 6:24 pm, in reply to "Good point!! Practically nothing kills it" 75.208.14.184 Have tried the sugar route before with no luck. There is a herbicide called manage that is specially for nutsedge grass. It is expensive but worth it as I also tried the digging out the nuts also with them only coming back stronger but Manage does the job just becareful to only spray on what you want killed.  Post a Response

Picture? Posted by TBJMPR2 on 10/21/2009, 7:56 am, in reply to "Step away from the hay! Nut grass is NASTY stuff" 209.78.56.72 What does it look like? That's pretty cool your hubby is a herbicide control operator. Does he want to come spray my pastures and get rid of my cockleburs that come in the irrigation water? HATE those things! If riding were all blue ribbons and bright lights, I would have quit long ago. ~ George Morris  Post a Response

Let me figure out how to scan and load a pic Posted by FriesianMom on 10/21/2009, 8:02 am, in reply to "Picture?" 12.149.148.7 You lucky lady - irrigated pasture. He might come spray, where are you located?  Post a Response

Re: Let me figure out how to scan and load a pic Posted by TBJMPR2 on 10/21/2009, 10:47 am, in reply to "Let me figure out how to scan and load a pic" 209.78.56.72 I'm in Vacaville on the Dixon boarder. If riding were all blue ribbons and bright lights, I would have quit long ago. ~ George Morris  Post a Response

Just Google it. Posted by BarbaraC on 10/21/2009, 9:39 am, in reply to "Picture?" 192.18.43.225 I typed in 'nut grass' and the first thing listed showed a pic of it.  Post a Response

Yellow Nutsedge Plant Posted by TBJMPR2 on 10/21/2009, 11:01 am, in reply to "Alfalfa Hay with Nutgrass ?" 209.78.56.72 According to UC Davis it is common in CA. We have this in our irrigation ditches. It doesn’t grow in the pastures themselves, only where the water sits in the ditches. My horses like to eat it and generally graze it down to the roots when the ditches soak up the water. UCD info - explains about nutsedge, types of pesticides to use etc. http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7432.html If riding were all blue ribbons and bright lights, I would have quit long ago. ~ George Morris  Post a Response

thanks Posted by WindmillHills Cheryl on 10/21/2009, 12:30 pm, in reply to "Yellow Nutsedge Plant" 75.18.214.145 I had never heard of nutgrass. But now that I see a picture, I do have some of that growing in my stream. Most years my horses avoid it, but I noticed last weekend when I was back in the stream that it is all eatten down. I'm surprised that stuff grew enough to be in an alfalfa pasture and baled up. Since I don't have irrigated pastures, I've never had it spread to my pasture areas. Essential Oils - bring health to yourself and your horses. http://www.WMHCheryl.com http://www.youngliving.org/WMHCheryl  Post a Response

Me neither Posted by TBJMPR2 on 10/21/2009, 1:14 pm, in reply to "thanks" 209.78.56.72 It's never spread into the pasture, even with flood irrigation and the horses eating it. It has to be REALLY wet for it to seed and grow. I'd never heard of it either. You can see it in my ditch in this picture - getting grazed down. If riding were all blue ribbons and bright lights, I would have quit long ago. ~ George Morris  Post a Response

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