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    Posted by Luna on 2/17/2008, 8:04 am, in reply to "Re: Short Elaboration "
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    --Previous Message--
    : We're goths here too you know? And for the
    : record, you'll find that goths do have a
    : tendency to define and define and define the
    : definition out of goth inside out. Go on any
    : goth site or community and you'll see it
    : happen time and time again.
    :
    :
    : The reason medieval cathedrals were labelled
    : gothic was because the people who labelled
    : them so were trying to insult them. They
    : preferred classical architecture and chose
    : to call them gothic because gothic came to
    : mean barbaric and uncouth.
    :
    : Regarding gothic literature and it's
    : influences and developments there are plenty
    : of books and websites you can read that will
    : inform you on the subject. The same goes for
    : goth music which started with Bauhaus,
    : Siouxsie and the Banshees, Joy Division and
    : The Cure (whether they're goth or not).
    : There's a lot of research and literature
    : available on goth music as well as films
    : that draw influences from gothic literature
    : and later films that have had an impact on
    : the goth scene.
    :
    : You're the first person I've heard talk
    : about these 'five components of goth'. For
    : many people goth is about the music firts
    : and foremost but that depends on which
    : internet community you go visiting.
    :


    Must of been awhile ago, I don't even recall typeing that XD
    I read over what I wrote, duno what the hell I was thinking it sounds so crazy.
    I thought I mentioned that it was started by the banchies(I only gave 1 example, though I know there were more, as you stated).
    I kind of figured that Gothic was ment to insult the Gothic Cathedrals(I thought I typed that too along with that other thing I typed),, I kinda had to figure that out on my own though,some one told me it was used in the term as "enlighting", which doesn't really make any sense that it would be used as an insult & then some how be used as a complament. As for the "5 gothic compnents" I doubt I"m the only 1 who thinks that, just probably the only 1 who puts it that way to shorten it up. The 5 asthetics that created what it is now from the literature on, the lituerature, art, music, style, & sometimes make- up. I admit I probably shouldn't labile them components, that does sound dumb. A for what I said first off, like I said, I don't remember, I was probably in one of my dumbfounded "oh so smart" moods, if you know what I mean(i think I may be bipolor). However, it is hard to find a relabile reource online. A good percentage are either written by ppl who aren't even Goth or would be ones who claim to worship Satan. Not that this site does. I've scanned over it a bit, it seems like a reliable source, well formed, so I don't know what I was thinking when I commented that. My apology.


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