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Posted by chris on 7/22/2008, 6:43 pm, in reply to "Who's Your Goth-Daddy?"
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I've found myself revisiting Antichrist Superstar and wondering why pop-culture hasn't coopted the boogeyman archetype ever since Marilyn Manson's star faded.

I would rather Middle America be frightened to conniptions by an honest fear-object like Marilyn Manson who transparently sought to shock and terrify average American couch potatoes than have them be manipulated by the same tactics yet lead to believe that their fears are well-deserved.

In a strange twist of fate, Marilyn Manson is to me somehow a more legitimate thing to be afraid of than bird flu or economic collapse. The contemporary madness is more the fear of artifice than even the anti-Manson brigade circa 1997. Life imitates poetry.

--Previous Message--
: Today I spent a lot of time -- maybe too much
: -- watching a Twilight Zone marathon on the
: Sci-Fi channel. Suddenly, a thought came to
: me.
:
: Here's Rod Serling, some-time writer and
: full-time host to one of TV's spookiest
: shows. Downright eerie, some of the tales
: could be considered . . . well, gothic in
: nature.
:
: But look again at Rod Serling. The man did
: not have a gothic bone in his body. Maybe a
: slight turn of gothic in his mind, but most
: of his stories were sci-fi, not gothic
: tales.
:
: Knowing nothing else of the man than his TV
: presence, I'd have to say he was far and
: away more Beat than goth.
:
: So, by extrapolation, I wonder if all, or
: indeed any, of the "gothic"
: masters -- Lovecraft, Stoker, Poe, Shelley
: -- I wonder if they considered themselves as
: having a "gothic" personality.
:
: So, the point of this post is down the this,
: my friends: of all the bands you know who
: perform gothic stuff, which are NOT
: considered -- either by themselves or by
: their followers -- to be gothic.
:
: Don't bother with Marilyn Manson. He's a
: joke on the scene. Talented, yes, but a
: joke nonetheless.
:

Message Thread:

Who's Your Goth-Daddy? - Old Grey 7/3/2008, 8:33 pm

Re: Who's Your Goth-Daddy? - Dr. Frostus 1/27/2009, 3:12 am

marilyn manson is GREAT yeehaw - chris 7/22/2008, 6:43 pm

Life imitates art - faith 7/23/2008, 6:33 am

well... - Tass 7/29/2008, 2:18 am

Re: well... - V 8/21/2008, 2:08 am

Re: well... - Janus 9/11/2008, 10:34 am

Pappa - faith 7/8/2008, 6:36 pm

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--Previous Message-- : I've found myself revisiting Antichrist : Superstar and wondering why pop-culture : hasn't coopted the boogeyman archetype ever : since Marilyn Manson's star faded. : : I would rather Middle America be frightened : to conniptions by an honest fear-object like : Marilyn Manson who transparently sought to : shock and terrify average American couch : potatoes than have them be manipulated by : the same tactics yet lead to believe that : their fears are well-deserved. : : In a strange twist of fate, Marilyn Manson : is to me somehow a more legitimate thing to : be afraid of than bird flu or economic : collapse. The contemporary madness is more : the fear of artifice than even the : anti-Manson brigade circa 1997. Life : imitates poetry. : : --Previous Message-- : Today I spent a lot of time -- maybe too : much : -- watching a Twilight Zone marathon on the : Sci-Fi channel. Suddenly, a thought came to : me. : : Here's Rod Serling, some-time writer and : full-time host to one of TV's spookiest : shows. Downright eerie, some of the tales : could be considered . . . well, gothic in : nature. : : But look again at Rod Serling. The man did : not have a gothic bone in his body. Maybe a : slight turn of gothic in his mind, but most : of his stories were sci-fi, not gothic : tales. : : Knowing nothing else of the man than his TV : presence, I'd have to say he was far and : away more Beat than goth. : : So, by extrapolation, I wonder if all, or : indeed any, of the "gothic" : masters -- Lovecraft, Stoker, Poe, Shelley : -- I wonder if they considered themselves as : having a "gothic" personality. : : So, the point of this post is down the this, : my friends: of all the bands you know who : perform gothic stuff, which are NOT : considered -- either by themselves or by : their followers -- to be gothic. : : Don't bother with Marilyn Manson. He's a : joke on the scene. Talented, yes, but a : joke nonetheless. : : :

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