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The definition differs with the denomination...

Posted by vfc on October 29, 2009, 9:00 pm, in reply to "LOL somebody please explain..........."
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For some it may mean one who has the pastoral gift, who is trained and released to do the work of pastoring while still being employed in full-time secular work...these lay pastors may or may not be ordained elders.

In certain Presbyterian Churches the lay pastor serves in small congregations who are unable to financially support a full-time pastor or the lay pastor may be the one who serves while the regular pastor is on vacation. The lay pastor cannot perform all of the duties of the full-time pastor...

I first heard the term "lay ministery" when I taught in Catholic schools and played for Catholic churches (some 30+ years ago!)...The Catholic bishops state "As communities of unity and love, our parishes must encourage the laity to explore, develop and share their gifts and talents for the good of the whole church...[the diocese][of expressed the strong desire that our church foster, develop and train lay men and women for active ministry on the local and diocesan level. This work is important because committed laity, by virtue of their baptism, must be given the opportunity to serve the community in the pastoral and liturgical ministries which nourish our life together. Those who wish to serve the church in these capacities must be well trained in order to serve competently and effectively. Furthermore, these lay ministries exercise leadership in the community, drawing people to greater faith and a deeper involvement in the church. Those who exercise such leadership must remain faithful to all aspects of the church's teaching and be given the necessary skills with which they can fulfill their work"

Hope this helps or at least begins the discussion.

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LOL somebody please explain........... - mccottry October 29, 2009, 2:31 pm

Evidently its a common term .. - Kjon October 30, 2009, 1:18 pm

Ok but what about in the BLACK church? These are not!* - mccottry October 30, 2009, 4:42 pm

Why limit yourself..* - Kjon November 1, 2009, 11:41 am

I am not, but the use of the term in the black church is extremely different than the white........ - mccottry November 2, 2009, 7:01 am

how bout - ashon November 3, 2009, 11:44 am

Quoting Prophet NeedMore, "Melanin."* - Ferguson October 30, 2009, 12:10 pm

LOL. Fits in a whole lotta situations, doesn't it?**** - NeedMore October 30, 2009, 5:47 pm

LOL, You just can't help yourself. .......... - Vince on Keys October 30, 2009, 9:22 am

I wasn't being funny, I am serious!* - mccottry October 30, 2009, 9:44 am

The definition differs with the denomination... - vfc October 29, 2009, 9:00 pm

Thank you so much for your response! I did know about the Catholic church but....................... - mccottry October 30, 2009, 9:43 am

I hear you...but considering the first definition.... - vfc October 31, 2009, 7:48 am

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--Previous Message-- : For some it may mean one who has the pastoral : gift, who is trained and released to do the : work of pastoring while still being employed : in full-time secular work...these lay : pastors may or may not be ordained elders. : : In certain Presbyterian Churches the lay : pastor serves in small congregations who are : unable to financially support a full-time : pastor or the lay pastor may be the one who : serves while the regular pastor is on : vacation. The lay pastor cannot perform all : of the duties of the full-time pastor... : : I first heard the term "lay : ministery" when I taught in Catholic : schools and played for Catholic churches : (some 30+ years ago!)...The Catholic bishops : state "As communities of unity and : love, our parishes must encourage the laity : to explore, develop and share their gifts : and talents for the good of the whole : church...[the diocese][of expressed the : strong desire that our church foster, : develop and train lay men and women for : active ministry on the local and diocesan : level. This work is important because : committed laity, by virtue of their baptism, : must be given the opportunity to serve the : community in the pastoral and liturgical : ministries which nourish our life together. : Those who wish to serve the church in these : capacities must be well trained in order to : serve competently and effectively. : Furthermore, these lay ministries exercise : leadership in the community, drawing people : to greater faith and a deeper involvement in : the church. Those who exercise such : leadership must remain faithful to all : aspects of the church's teaching and be : given the necessary skills with which they : can fulfill their work" : : Hope this helps or at least begins the : discussion. : : --Previous Message-- : I was just on facebook and somebody signed : in : as Laypastor_________ _______ it is on : there now I would call his name and tell you : where the post is but I don't want to get : stoned! LOL : : WhAT IN THE WORLD IS A LAYPASTOR???LOL* : : :

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