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Posted by Cynthia on 7/24/2003, 1:40 pm, in reply to "Re: Your data?" 1) Your original (written) statement was: "please tell me you are joke." Now you have changed the statement to: "please tell me you joke?" The first sentence states that the individual is a joke- "you are a joke." The second sentence asks if a joke has been made- "tell me you joke?" These are two entirely different statements, with two entirely different meanings. If this were a verbal conversation, you could get away with the denial and switch method of argument, however this written format cancels that option for you. 2) You are taking the posts of four different people and responding as though they are one person. Michelle was the one with the original post, I guess just looking for support. Josie is the person who believes addiction does occur. Diane posted the link to the society.guardian.co.uk article. I, Cynthia, am the one who was questioning your data source on this topic. Point: The "If you do not wish to take your medication" statement must have been directed toward Michelle, as she was the first one who mentioned taking medication. Whereas this question, "have you ever heard of Borderline Personality Disorder?" is apparently directed toward me. That's an interesting distraction, another malady, apparently pulled out of the air. You seem quick to make a diagnosis based on little or no actual facts. 3) Regarding your previous post, Paxil withdrawal: "The product insert for Paxil warns that abrupt discontinuation may lead to symptoms such as dizziness, sensory disturbances, agitation or anxiety, nausea and sweating, and also mentions withdrawal syndrome as a rare adverse event." " After growing concern about these withdrawal symptoms, drug companies renamed these phenomena antidepressant discontinuation syndrome." Quoted from: ABC news, mainstream corporate news agency. It really all comes down to linguistics doesn't it? The term, "antidepressant discontinuation syndrome" sounds so much nicer than the term, "withdrawal," which is associated with crazed heroin addicts. "Withdrawal," that's such an unpleasant little word... The drug companies have extrememly effective marketing strategies. Tabloid press? Another ugly term with negative connotations. What exactly constitutes a tabloid press agency in the UK? Why is the data of the Committee on the Safety of Medicines(CSM) less qualified than that of your reference, Canadian psychiatrist, Dr. Phillip Long, author of Internet Mental Health, a free encyclopedia of mental health information? 4) I did not find his absolute statement that: "You cannot become phy. addicted to Paxil or Zoloft, therefore there should be no withdrawals." Rather, Dr. Phillip Long states: My whole point here, in questioning your data source, is that: 1) you have set yourself up as an authority figure on this board, "I work in a small hospital," "30 years as a practitioner," but you do not list your actual qualifications of position and educational level. 2) Assuming the position as an authority figure you have made absolute statements: 3) You have made two online diagnosiss, Agoraphobia and Borderline Personality Disorder, based on little or no facts. Conclusion: It's very important when researching something as important as a medical issue, that the individual does receive properly qualified advice. It is important to question the actual qualifications of self-named authority figures. It is important to disseminate data based on actual observation and analysis type facts, rather than merely accepting vague generalizations and logical fallacies.
Link: http://www.abcnews.go.com/onair/2020/2020_000825_SSRIwithdrawal_feature.html
Yours is not a credible argument, as you are employing a series of logical fallacies, which are basically a distraction method used to detract from the main issues of an argument.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/onair/2020/2020_000825_SSRIwithdrawal_feature.html
"Dependence Liability: Fluoxetine has not been systematically studied, in animals or humans, for its potential for abuse, tolerance, or physical dependence. Physicians should carefully evaluate patients for history of drug abuse and follow such patients closely, observing them for signs of misuse or abuse of fluoxetine."
"You cannot become phy. addicted to Paxil or Zoloft therefore there should be no withdrawals." However, the statement is actually unsubstantiated, as per your own references.
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