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Posted by Josie on 7/25/2003, 2:12 pm, in reply to "Re: Your data?"
Cynthia- I like you !
--Previous Message--
: Yours is not a credible argument, as you are
: employing a series of logical fallacies,
: which are basically a distraction method used
: to detract from the main issues of an
: argument.
: 1) Your original (written) statement was:
: "please tell me you are joke." Now
: you have changed the statement to:
: "please tell me you joke?" The
: first sentence states that the individual is
: a joke- "you are a joke." The
: second sentence asks if a joke has been made-
: "tell me you joke?" These are two
: entirely different statements, with two
: entirely different meanings.
: If this were a verbal conversation, you could
: get away with the denial and switch method of
: argument, however this written format cancels
: that option for you.
: 2) You are taking the posts of four different
: people and responding as though they are one
: person. Michelle was the one with the
: original post, I guess just looking for
: support. Josie is the person who believes
: addiction does occur. Diane posted the link
: to the society.guardian.co.uk article. I,
: Cynthia, am the one who was questioning your
: data source on this topic.
: Point: The "If you do not wish to take
: your medication" statement must have
: been directed toward Michelle, as she was the
: first one who mentioned taking medication.
: Whereas this question, "have you ever
: heard of Borderline Personality
: Disorder?" is apparently directed toward
: me. That's an interesting distraction,
: another malady, apparently pulled out of the
: air. You seem quick to make a diagnosis based
: on little or no actual facts.
: 3) Regarding your previous post, Paxil
: withdrawal:
: "The product insert for Paxil warns that
: abrupt discontinuation may lead to symptoms
: such as dizziness, sensory disturbances,
: agitation or anxiety, nausea and sweating,
: and also mentions withdrawal syndrome as a
: rare adverse event." " After
: growing concern about these withdrawal
: symptoms, drug companies renamed these
: phenomena antidepressant discontinuation
: syndrome."
: Quoted from:
: http://www.abcnews.go.com/onair/2020/2020_000825_SSRIwithdrawal_feature.html
: ABC news, mainstream corporate news agency.
: It really all comes down to linguistics
: doesn't it?
: The term, "antidepressant
: discontinuation syndrome" sounds so
: much nicer than the term,
: "withdrawal," which is associated
: with crazed heroin addicts.
: "Withdrawal," that's such an
: unpleasant little word... The drug companies
: have extrememly effective marketing
: strategies.
: Tabloid press? Another ugly term with
: negative connotations. What exactly
: constitutes a tabloid press agency in the UK?
: Why is the data of the Committee on the
: Safety of Medicines(CSM) less qualified than
: that of your reference, Canadian
: psychiatrist, Dr. Phillip Long, author of
: Internet Mental Health, a free encyclopedia
: of mental health information?
: 4) I did not find his absolute statement
: that: "You cannot become phy. addicted
: to Paxil or Zoloft, therefore there should be
: no withdrawals." Rather, Dr. Phillip
: Long states: "Dependence Liability:
: Fluoxetine has not been systematically
: studied, in animals or humans, for its
: potential for abuse, tolerance, or physical
: dependence. Physicians should carefully
: evaluate patients for history of drug abuse
: and follow such patients closely, observing
: them for signs of misuse or abuse of
: fluoxetine."
: My whole point here, in questioning your data
: source, is that:
: 1) you have set yourself up as an authority
: figure on this board, "I work in a small
: hospital," "30 years as a
: practitioner," but you do not list your
: actual qualifications of position and
: educational level.
: 2) Assuming the position as an authority
: figure you have made absolute statements:
: "You cannot become phy. addicted to
: Paxil or Zoloft therefore there should be no
: withdrawals." However, the statement is
: actually unsubstantiated, as per your own
: references.
: 3) You have made two online diagnosiss,
: Agoraphobia and Borderline Personality
: Disorder, based on little or no facts.
: Conclusion: It's very important when
: researching something as important as a
: medical issue, that the individual does
: receive properly qualified advice. It is
: important to question the actual
: qualifications of self-named authority
: figures. It is important to disseminate data
: based on actual observation and analysis type
: facts, rather than merely accepting vague
: generalizations and logical fallacies.
:
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