Re: Puzzle 4- no bandeau base on the original "Girls" tiara ???
Posted by Boffer on May 29, 2012, 7:05 am, in reply to "Re: Puzzle 4- no bandeau base on the original "Girls" tiara ???"
126.96.36.199 | Message modified by user Boffer May 29, 2012, 7:05 am
I believe there were only 2 bases.|
One for the Girls Tiara and another for Queen Victoria's Necklace/Tiara.
I believe that the lozenge base worn with the Girls of Great Britain and Ireland Tiara was made for that Tiara.
I believe that the base worn with the Surrey Tiara, was the base from the Girls of Great Britain and Ireland Tiara. (Which was/is easily detachable).
In my view, there is no doubt that this base was made for the Girls tiara in its original form, and was occasionally worn with other tiaras.
This is what I have in my detailed notes on the Surrey Tiara.
And that the base worn with Queen Victoria's Necklace/Tiara was part of the original gift. Whether or not it was worn on the wedding day, I cannot be sure. But it was definitely worn in that image the gift being worn as a necklace, coupled with the fact that it was pictured in that state in the photo inventories, to me indicates that it is part of the original design.
Although it would be nice to look at QM's notes to be absolutely sure.
: Boffer - would you then assert that all
: three pieces - Girls, QV gift, and Surrey -
: were made originally with very very similar
: (identical?) lozenge-pattern bandeau bases?
: Here are pics of the QV gift worn as a tiara
: by Princess May for her wedding.
: Is there a bandeau base?
: --Previous Message--
: I believe that the base for the Girls of
: Britain tiara is in its original form. It
: can be seen being worn by Queen Mary, with
: the base very shortly after her wedding.
: Furthermore, the easy with which the base
: could be removed is obvious, as this Girls
: of Great Britain Tiara was also designed to
: be worn as a necklace (and Roberts notes
: that it is also photographed as such in
: Queen Mary's Jewellery inventory, but he
: doesn't publish the image).
: Therefore the base, being original to the
: tiara, would have been easily detachable.
: And could easily be attached onto other
: tiaras. All jewels of this era were hugely
: As for the wedding necklace/tiara from Queen
: Victoria. This is in its original form. The
: added "base" to this necklace /
: tiara was worn by Queen Mary on various
: occasions as either a choker of bandeau,
: which indicate it was originally part of the
: jewel that she received as a wedding
: This picture of Queen Mary in her turquoise
: tiara, clearly show the diamond
: tiara/necklace with its base being worn as a
: choker by Queen Mary.
: It is also of note that the turquoise tiara
: is being worn in its original form,
: indicating that it was soon after the
: wedding, and thus the jewels are all in
: their unaltered form.
: The base of the Queen Victoria's
: necklace/tiara can also be seen here, being
: worn as a bandeau with the aigrette, that
: was a wedding gift from the Duke of York.
: Thus, I believe that the representation of
: this necklace without the base in the
: Illustrated London News image of Queen
: Mary's wedding gifts is incorrect; and that
: Queen Mary's Photographic jewellery
: inventory provides a true representation.
: I believe that both these pieces are
: photographed in their original form in Queen
: Mary's Jewellery Inventory. After all, if
: they had been altered, Queen Mary would have
: noted this, and therefore Roberts would have
: been able to see that they weren't in their
: original form, and he would have noted as
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- QD - 3 Puzzles - Queen Mary necklace/tiara wedding gifts - Surrey and QV - Nellie May 28, 2012, 10:14 pm
- Puzzle 1 - bandeau base added to QV - Nellie May 28, 2012, 10:15 pm
- Puzzle 2 - same bandeau base for Surrey and for QV ? - Nellie May 28, 2012, 10:18 pm
- Puzzle 3 - photo session switches ? - Nellie May 28, 2012, 10:20 pm
- Puzzle 4- no bandeau base on the original "Girls" tiara ??? - Nellie May 29, 2012, 6:17 am
- Re: QD - 5 Puzzles - Queen Mary bandeau - schermsd May 29, 2012, 3:33 pm
- QD - 6 - those pesky bands - Nellie May 30, 2012, 12:24 am
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