comparison turquoise necklaces and tiara
Posted by Radama on June 27, 2012, 9:30 pm, in reply to "Re: comparison"
Your close ups are fantastic as always Tamara! |
And I still say the Baden necklace is the one GD Maria Teresa wore in Brussels in April 2007 but remodeled.
On your last close up it is clearer : you can perfectly distinguish the palmettes dangling with some remodeling : two small pendants added on each side of the palmette on the central motif while on the following one, on both side, they receive one larger pendant upon each palmette.
Now having seen the belgian turquoise necklace you posted above (from Countess of Flanders provenance), I'm pretty sure it is GD Maria Teresa's one which was worn on Finnish State Visit (2008 if I recall correctly). If you put the girandole pendant of the brooch dangling on the necklace, it fits perfectly. This necklace was auctionned the year before rather by Pss Maria Gabriella of Savoy. Some of its stones could have been constitute the current GD tiara in addition of some of the Baden necklace.
Thus in conclusion, my theory if I may say so is : all the turquoises belonging to the Countess of Flanders are now in the GD of Luxembourg vault.
: Radama...yes, the tear shape turquoise
: surrounded with diamonds is
: "similar" design but not
: identical...I am referring to your scan of
: the Baden turquoise necklace and turquoise
: tiara worn by GD.
: Here is your scan rotated to see how it
: would look as a tiara...and I can clearly
: see that both jewels cannot be compared
: because Baden design looks much older (more
: refined)in its design than the one worn by
: Honestly, the Baden necklace has interesting
: similarities with the Belgien turquoise
: parure that was given to Maria Pia of Savoy,
: which is now with SJ Phillips awaiting for
: its new owner.
: As far as this turquoise necklace is
: concerned (the clearest picture I have),
: this is totally different necklace. To me it
: looks like British version of diamond
: necklace of Queen Alexandra, where the
: pieces were removed to make earrings, which
: is now with Queen Sonja. (I am gong off
: topic now lol)...You can almost remove
: second element pieces (2 turquoise on top of
: another) and use them as earrings...
: what I am trying to say is that, this
: necklace is NOT the same as the one GD wore
: as tiara and necklace...as I agree with
: Boris, we are talking about 4 different
: jewels that have no connection.
: --Previous Message--
: I may be wrong but I don't agree with you
: Boris. I explain it :
: IMO the setting of the oval-shape pendants
: on the Baden necklace are identical to those
: of the tiara and the stones are of the same
: size. Idem for the smaller turquoises and
: the rounds ones.
: Indeed there are more stones in the tiara
: but I think they could have been added and
: the Baden necklace is not seen in its whole
: part (see the picture I scanned for my first
: But above all, just my guesses.
: --Previous Message--
: Radama, that's an interesting theory, but:
: - Only three pendants of the Baden necklace
: resemble the design of the setting of all
: the turquoises in the tiara
: - The necklace does have larger and less
: turquoises than the tiara
: - There's no evidence that the Luxembourg
: Grand ducal family bought the Baden necklace
: in the first place
: - I don't see the connection between tiara
: and GD Maria Theresa's grand necklace
: either, because the turquoises in the motifs
: removed when the necklace was worn in its
: shorter version are indeed larger than the
: ones in the tiara - see Tamara's post above.
: In other words, I'm sorry but I don't think
: that your theory is correct.
: IMO, the tiara, GD Maria Teresa's necklace
: and the Baden necklace are three different
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