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    Re: Fife tiara Archived Message

    Posted by Juscha on February 2, 2012, 9:50 am, in reply to "Fife tiara"

    Yes, the "Fife". `til now I´ve excluded it from my considerations.
    We have to think about it. According to Ursula´s side the Fife is made 1878 for the world exhibition or very similar copy of it. The setting is exceptionel and very modern at his time, an attempt to get the tiara lighter of weight, with a wonderful result. So if Massin was able to design something exceptionel, why order something old fashion in technique? Just a question.
    But I´m convinced of the necessity to a clearer picture of Queen Sophies tiara.

    --Previous Message--
    : The style of this Greek tiara resembles me
    : slightly of the Fife tiara (one of my all
    : time favourite tiaras).
    :
    :
    : http://www.royal-magazin.de/england/fife-massin-tiara.htm
    :
    : It was a gift to the future Duchess of Fife
    : in 1889, and is said to be made by French
    : jeweler Massin.
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : Dear Fellow-Posters!
    :
    : Much more than in all this about why it´s
    : not worn or who inherited it, I´m interested
    : in the question about the style and the
    : maker of the wonderful tiara of Queen Sophie
    : of Greece.
    :
    : I´ve looked at all my pictures of tiaras and
    : tried to find similarities in style and look
    : of this jewel. The assumption that the tiara
    : has been a gift to Princess Sophie of
    : Prussia to the occasion of her marriage with
    : Crownprince Konstantin of Greece usually is
    : not doubted. They celebrated the engagement
    : in 1888, the wedding was in October 1889. So
    : it might has been made in this space of
    : time, it has to be compared it with other
    : jewels of this period.
    : I do not know, if the tiara was give by her
    : mother or by her brother, an important
    : question because it is likely that Wilhelm
    : will not have choosen an english jeweller. I
    : believe that both prefered a german one, but
    : I do not know if the german imperial house
    : sometimes ordered jewels from Paris, Vienna
    : or St.Petersburg.
    :
    : So, if you are interested in it, too, let´s
    : investigate together:
    :
    : There are some question I have in mind to
    : find out the maker of the tiara:
    : Who married at the same period (+/- 5 years
    : or so) and get a tiara?
    : What kind, what style of tiara?
    : Who made it?
    : Are there special types of style and looks
    : preferred by special families or countries?
    : Are there details in décor very similar or
    : the same in another jewel?
    : Which jeweller made which kind of jewels at
    : this time?
    :
    : With a good research, perhaps we will be
    : able to do educated guess, a little bit more
    : than speculation.
    :
    : What I see when "examine" the foto
    : Tamara has posted (Thank you!) is a quite
    : massive tiara of garland style. The diamonds
    : are large, the central stones very large. My
    : impression is that the floral elements are
    : not so fine and delicate as we can see it
    : ten or so years late.
    : Regrettably there is very few material of
    : the prussian jewels made at this time. I´m
    : always astonished to see so many pictures of
    : the english royal ladies, but so few of the
    : german empresses. So there is nothing to
    : compare it with jewels of the Empresses
    : Viktoria or Auguste Viktoria.
    :
    : It isn´t as easy as it seems to find
    : substantial jewels of this period.
    : I found our Top Hit The Girl of Great
    : Britain and Ireland. Made for Princess Mary
    : of Teck as a wedding gift in 1893. Some kind
    : of floral design, lighter. By Garrards.
    : Hm.
    : The “Stuart” parure of the Netherland:
    : similarities in details, quite massive, ca.
    : ten years later made than the Queen Sophies
    : by Schürmann in Frankfurt. Schürmann is from
    : my point of view a potential candidate as
    : maker of queen Sophie´s.
    :
    : As to see, I need some help.
    :
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