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    Posted by Brock on May 11, 2012, 11:35 am, in reply to "Question about this book"

    It is focused primarily on diamond pieces, including primarily diamond pieces which also incorporate pearls. I believe the only non-white stones included here are the Cambridge and Durbar emerald pieces, but only in relation to the Durbar and Vladimir tiaras.

    --Previous Message--
    : Is the book focused on just diamonds? Does it
    : have anything about the other gems in the
    : collection?
    :
    : This may have already been mentioned,
    : forgive me if it has
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : I have so many thoughts running around in my
    : head after reading this wonderful book cover
    : to cover over the last two nights, but one
    : thing that immediately struck me was how
    : many historic pieces Queen Elizabeth the
    : Queen Mother had modified to suit her own
    : tastes, but no pictorial record has emerged
    : thus far of her wearing the pieces. The two
    : most obvious examples in the book are
    : mentions she had both the George IV Diadem
    : and the Dagmar Necklace changed. Can anyone
    : tell what these changes were with the naked
    : eye?
    :
    : I suppose if HLM did indeed have these
    : pieces modified there is hope yet of having
    : a photo emerge.
    :
    : A frustrating aspect is there are so many
    : "mysterious" jewels pictured in
    : the book in conjunction with other pieces --
    : such as Queen Mary's diamond hairpiece in
    : the portrait illustrating the Trophy of Love
    : choker -- which go unmentioned.
    :
    : On to Volume 2! (Please!)
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : I have received my copy of the Queen's
    : Diamonds and there are a number of mysteries
    : solved, as to the whereabouts and origins of
    : certain jewels.
    :
    : It goes without saying that all the
    : information below has been quoted and
    : paraphrased from:
    : Hugh Roberts (ed.), The Queen's Diamonds ,
    : (London: Royal Collection Publications,
    : 2012).
    :
    :
    : Including:
    :
    : - Queen Adelaide's Fringe Necklace : This
    : was made using George III's diamonds (hence
    : the confusion with Queen Mary's Diamond
    : Tiara). It was worn by Queen Victoria as
    : both a necklace and a tiara, it was worn by
    : Queen Alexandra at her coronation as a
    : girdle, and was later worn by Queen Mary as
    : a tiara, until she commissioned her own
    : Fringe Tiara. It passed to the Queen Mother,
    : who often wore it as a necklace. It is now
    : owned by the Queen.
    :
    : - Queen Adelaide's Brooch : (Originally
    : referred to as the William IV brooch) was
    : originally made as the clasp for a pearl
    : necklace that Queen Adelaide wore to her
    : coronation.
    :
    : - Queen Victoria's Bow Brooches : It has
    : been confirmed that these were made to
    : replace Queen Charlotte's almost identical
    : bow brooches, which were lost in the
    : Hanoverian claim.
    :
    : - Queen Victoria's Wheat-ear Brooches :
    : There are six in total, it is confirmed that
    : they were made using family diamonds by
    : William IV.
    :
    : - Queen Victoria's Golden Jubilee Necklace
    : : It has been noted that the crown on the
    : top of the central quatrefoil is detachable.
    :
    : - Queen Alexandra's Wedding Tiara :
    : (Previously incorrectly referred to as the
    : Rundell Tiara). It was made by Garrards for
    : the cost of &£8,000. This was left to
    : Princess Victoria upon Alexandra's death,
    : and was later "disposed of by
    : her". (It is no longer in the
    : collection).
    :
    : - The Ladies of England Necklace/Tiara :
    : This was dismantled in 1913 to created the
    : Lover's Knot Tiara
    :
    : - The Duchess of Gloucester's Pendant
    : Earrings : It is revealed that the two pairs
    : of earrings originally known as 'The Duchess
    : of Teck's Stud Earrings' (worn by the Queen
    : on her wedding day); and 'Queen Mary's
    : Pendant Earrings' were originally the same
    : pair, the pendants hanging from the studs.
    : They were originally inherited by the
    : Duchess of Teck from her aunt the Duchess of
    : Gloucester. The stud earrings were a gift to
    : Princess Elizabeth from Queen Mary in
    : January 1947, when she left for the South
    : African Tour. The pendant earrings were
    : inherited in 1953.
    :
    : - The Duchess of Teck's Tiara : This was
    : made using diamond elements inherited from
    : the Duchess of Gloucester. It was gifted by
    : Queen Mary to the Queen Mother in 1937 and
    : inherited by the Queen in 2002; since then
    : it has been "loaned to the Duchess of
    : Cornwall".
    :
    : - The Duchess of Teck's Flower Brooch :
    : This is the corsage brooch that Queen Mary
    : gave to the Queen Mother in 1923 as a
    : wedding gift, it was among the jewels that
    : the Duchess of Teck inherited from her aunt,
    : the Duchess of Gloucester.
    :
    : - Greek Key Diamond and Pearl Necklace : It
    : is revealed that the necklace that the Duke
    : of York gave to his bride in 1923 as a
    : wedding-present, in a greek-key design, was
    : purchased from Garrards. It is revealed that
    : this was dismantled six months later, and
    : the stones were used to created the Lotus
    : Flower Tiara.
    :
    : - The Duchess of Teck's Emperor of Austria
    : Brooch : (Previously referred to as the
    : 'Teck Corsage Brooch') This was a gift to
    : the Duchess of Teck by the Emperor of
    : Austria when he stood as godfather to her
    : son Prince Francis of Teck.
    :
    : - The County of Surrey Tiara : It is
    : revealed that this has been dismantled. The
    : large diamonds from which were used to
    : replace the pearls on top of the 'Girls of
    : Great Britain and Ireland Tiara'.
    :
    : - The Girls of Great Britain and Ireland
    : Tiara : This is convertible to both a
    : necklace and a small coronet style tiara.
    : The pearls were removed and used in the
    : Lover's Knot Tiara.
    :
    : - Queen Mary's Richmond Brooch : Previously
    : referred to as the Surrey Brooch, this pearl
    : and diamond brooch, was actually a wedding
    : gift to Queen Mary from the Town of
    : Richmond.
    :
    : - Queen Mary's Love Trophy Collar : This
    : was made by Garrards in 1901 for Queen Mary,
    : using diamonds from her own collection,
    : taken from another “scroll and
    : ribbon-pattern collar” , which had in turn
    : been made using the stones from seven
    : 12-pointed diamond stars, and a pair of star
    : earrings, that had been given to Queen Mary
    : as an 18th Birthday Present (by her
    : grandmother the Duchess of Cambridge).
    : 
Diamonds were also taken from a
    : “floral spray” , that had been a present to
    : Queen Mary from her Aunt, Augusta,
    : Grand-Duchess of Mecklenberg-Strelitz.
    : Munn attributed this to Cartier, however
    : there is no reference to it in their
    : archives; nor is there any reference to it
    : in Garrard’s archives, yet this seems to be
    : the more likely attribution.
    :
    :
    : - The Boucheron Loop Tiara : This was made
    : in 1902, using 675 stones that had been
    : given to Queen Mary (when Duchess of York)
    : by the De Beers Company. It was later
    : dismantled to made the Delhi Durbar Tiara.
    :
    : - The Delhi Durbar Tiara : This was made in
    : 1911 using stones taken from the Boucheron
    : Loop Tiara. The emeralds were permanently
    : removed from this tiara by 1922.
    :
    : - It is revealed that when the emeralds were
    : removed from the Durbar Tiara they were
    : adapted for the Vladimir Tiara. Queen Mary
    : also purchased a small diamond bandeau in
    : 1925 from Garrards, upon which is placed
    : some of the Cambridge Emerald Pendants as
    : spikes. This bandeau was bequeathed to by
    : Queen Mary to Princess Marina, the Duchess
    : of Kent in 1953 (with the emeralds removed).
    :
    : - It is revealed that the brooch worn by
    : Queen Mary to the 1937 coronation was a
    : "large openwork oval brooch" that
    : was "later disposed of".
    :
    : - Queen Mary's Stomacher : It is revealed
    : that the Karputhala Stomacher that was
    : dismantled to create Queen Mary's stomacher,
    : was indeed the one that was suggested. It
    : had been a wedding present in 1893.
    :
    : - Queen Mary's Sautoir : The Diamond
    : Sautoir that Queen Mary was often featured
    : wearing was made in 1928 using diamonds
    : taken from a riviere necklace that was
    : purchased from the Grand-Duchess Vladimir in
    : 1921. It passed to the Queen in 1953 and has
    : since been shortened.
    :
    : - Queen Mary's Chain Link Bracelets : These
    : combine to form a choker necklace. The first
    : was purchased in 1932 from Garrards. A
    : second one was made to match in 1935 (when
    : they were made to be adapted as a choker).
    : The second bracelet was made to incorporate
    : a detachable brooch that was made in 1935
    : using 9.75 carat diamond from South Africa.
    : The brooch and bracelets were left to the
    : Queen in 1953, who has only ever worn them
    : as bracelets.
    :
    : - Queen Mary's Cluster Earrings : These
    : were made in 1922 using the 'Mackinnon
    : Diamonds'. in 1939 the Mackinnon Diamonds
    : were removed and replaced with large
    : diamonds that had been a wedding-gift in
    : 1893 from the Bombay Presidency.
    :
    : - Queen Mary's Floret Earrings : These were
    : made in 1939 using the Mackinnon Diamonds
    : that had been removed from the Cluster
    : Earrings.
    :
    : - Queen Elizabeth's Coronation Necklace :
    : It has been confirmed that this was a gift
    : from George VI to Queen Elizabeth on the
    : occasion of their coronation. It has since
    : been loaned to the Duchess of Cornwall, who
    : has shortened it by nine stones.
    :
    : - Queen Elizabeth's Palm-leaf Brooch :
    : Previously referred to as the Paisley Motif
    : Brooch; this was made by Cartier in 1938
    : using loose stones from her own collection.
    :
    : - Queen Elizabeth's Lily Brooch : Known as
    : the 'Foot Long Floral Brooch' it is revealed
    : that this brooch is 17.2 cm long, it was
    : made by Cartier in 1939 using 203 loose
    : stones from Queen Elizabeth's collection,
    : and 52 stones from Cartier.
    :
    : - The Greville Bow Brooch : The large
    : 'mystery' bow brooch that the Queen Mother
    : was pictured wearing in 1961 is actually
    : from the collection of Mrs. Greville. It was
    : made by Boucheron in 1900.
    :
    : - The Greville Tiara : This was made in
    : 1921, using stones from a tiara made by
    : Boucheron in 1901 (this tiara is
    : illustrated). It was modified in 1953 using
    : a large marquise diamond, and brilliant
    : diamonds that were loose (after having been
    : removed from a brooch in 1949).
    :
    : - The Greville Scroll Brooch : The small
    : diamond and pearl brooch that the Queen
    : Mother and the Queen have worn (which some
    : have referred to as being in an 'E' shape);
    : was actually part of the Greville bequest.
    : It was made by Cartier in 1929.
    :
    : - The Greville Festoon Necklace : This was
    : made by Cartier. The two-strand necklace was
    : made in 1929. This was later partially
    : remodelled (original design in illustrated)
    : in 1938, when the shorter three-strand
    : necklace was made to compliment the piece
    : (creating a five-strand necklace).
    :
    : - The Greville Ivy-leaf brooches : These
    : were made separately by Cartier in 1930 and
    : 1937 respectively. They were bequeathed to
    : the Queen Mother by Mrs. Greville in 1942;
    : and later given to Princess Elizabeth as a
    : 21st birthday-present.
    :
    : - The Courtauld Thomson Scallop-shell
    : Brooch : This was made in 1919, to the
    : designs of Lord Courtauld Thomson. His
    : sister, Miss Winifred Hope left the brooch
    : to the Queen Mother in 1944.
    :
    : - The Queen's Engagement Ring and Wedding
    : Bracelet : These were both made from the
    : stones taken from one of Princess Andrew's
    : Tiaras (Prince Philip's Mother). It is
    : illustrated that the tiara that was
    : dismantled was the one which many speculated
    : was used to create the small rosette tiara
    : of the Countess of Wessex. This is now ruled
    : impossible as the tiara was dismantled in
    : 1947.
    :
    : - The Queen's Nizam of Hyderbad Tiara :
    : This was made in 1939 by Cartier. It is
    : confirmed that this tiara was dismantled in
    : 1973, with the stones being used to create
    : the Burmese Ruby Tiara. Only the three rose
    : brooches remain.
    :
    : - The Queen's Nizam of Hyderbad Neckalce :
    : This was made in 1935 by Cartier with more
    : pendants (original design modified). It was
    : sold in 1936 but returned to Cartier in
    : 1937, until it was purchased by the Nizam in
    : 1947 and gifted to the Princess Elizabeth
    : for her wedding.
    :
    : - The Queen's Baguette and Brilliant
    : Bracelet : This small bracelet, it is
    : revealed was purchased from Garrard in 1949
    : and gifted from George VI to Princess
    : Elizabeth.
    :
    : - The Queen's Festoon Necklace : It is
    : revealed that this three-strand necklace
    : with triangular motifs was made in 1950
    : using 105 loose stones from the King's
    : Collection. It was later shortened by 10
    : stones in 1953.
    :
    : - The Queen's King Faisal Necklace : It is
    : revealed that this was made by Harry Winston
    : in 1952, yet it was not purchased until 1967
    : when it was gifted to the Queen.
    :
    : - The Queen's King Khalid Necklace : This
    : was made in 1977 by Harry Winston. It was
    : gifted to the Queen in 1979.
    :
    : There are scores of illustrations and images
    : in this book. Including photographs taken
    : from 'Queen Mary's Jewellery Inventory'
    : which seems to have been an extensive album
    : of photographs catalogue her whole
    : collection. Many of the pieces in which have
    : since been remodelled. Images include:
    : - The Ladies of England Necklace/Tiara
    : - The Delhi-Durbar Stomacher
    : - The Surrey Tiara
    : - Queen Victoria's Wedding Gift
    : Necklace/Tiara
    : - Queen Mary's Pearl Stomacher
    : - The Duchess of Gloucester Earrings in
    : their original form.
    :
    : It has also been revealed that far from
    : dying and leaving no instructions as to the
    : distribution of her jewels; despite leaving
    : no will, Queen Alexandra left a detailed
    : inventory with notes detailing to whom the
    : jewel should pass to. Thus showing that
    : there was method to the dispersion of her
    : collection.
    :
    : All pieces discussed in the book are
    : illustrated with both HQ and 'actual size'
    : photographs, as well as many pictures of the
    : pieces being worn.
    :
    : I will be happy to type out the more
    : detailed quotes if anyone wants
    : clarification on some of the points raised
    : above.
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