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    Re: Russian Crown Jewels Archived Message

    Posted by karenl on January 2, 2013, 10:45 pm, in reply to "Re: Russian Crown Jewels"


    Thank you Dmitry. Yes, it's very tragic. The Bolsheviks destroyed so much priceless artifacts and jewels, they decimated a large part of Russian cultural history. The Chinese Communists have done the same especially during the notorious Cultural Revolution.
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    : I have heard the same and know that some
    : packets of gems were sold independent of the
    : larger sales, but cannot verify beyond that.
    : Very, very sad.
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    : Dmitry, you may correct me if I'm wrong,
    : but I've read that many of the Russian Royal
    : jewel pieces, besides being sold, had the
    : gemstones removed and the precious metals
    : were melted down into bars and sold. I
    : recall reading that in a news magazine
    : article many years ago. Do you know if
    : there's any truth to it? Thank you.
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    : The jewels of the Grand Duchess Cyril were
    : from her mother and formed part of Grand
    : Duchess Marie Alexandrovna's wedding jewels.
    : They were sapphires and diamonds.
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : Source: Library of Congress collection.
    :
    : It looks like Tsarina Alexandra wore this
    : same tiara in both photos. It was a real
    : small tiara so I doubt it was among these
    : jewels on the table, was it?
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    : Grand Duchess Cyrill of Russia (in the left
    : photo with her daughter Princess Marie) wore
    : the tiara and the
    : ??convertible-tiara??-necklace and brooch
    : with the pendant. Are they among the jewels
    : on the table? Or they survived in her family
    : jewel collection until a point in time, did
    : they? Or they were not given to her by
    : anyone in the Russian royal family on her
    : marriage, were they?
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    : Was the tiara (worn by Grand Duchess
    : Michael of Russia [Anastasia] here) owned by
    : the Russian royal family before she acquired
    : it?
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    : The Duchess of Edinburgh &
    : Saxe-Coburg-Gotha's tiara and
    : necklace/pendant and brooch/pendant and
    : earring set....were they Russian in origin
    : or British? She was the former Grand Duchess
    : of Russia.
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    : --Previous Message--
    : Source: Library of Congress and Getty
    : Images.
    :
    : Tsarina Alexandra wore one of these 13
    : tiaras (lying on the table in the newspaper
    : picture). Not sure about the choker, earring
    : set, necklace, bracelets, or the fan.
    :
    :
    : Tsarina Marie wore two of these 13 tiaras
    : here. I would assume these pearl necklaces
    : and the brooch would be among these jewels
    : lying on that table.
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    :
    : I think Tsarina Alexandra was wearing one
    : of these 13 tiaras as well. Not sure about
    : the long necklace and another necklace and
    : earring set or bracelets.
    :
    :
    : An earlier Tsarina Alexandra....not sure if
    : her jewels here are among the ones lying on
    : the table. Certainly, there were some really
    : large oval gemstones on that table.
    :
    :
    : Grand Duchess Constantine wore the same
    : necklace and bracelets as worn by that
    : earlier Tsarina Alexandra (immediately
    : above)(furthermore, both ladies looked
    : alike), so I suppose they were one and the
    : same woman.
    :
    : Grand Duchess Vladimir wore the famous
    : tiara which is currently in the possession
    : of Britain's Queen Elizabeth II, so this
    : tiara is safe. But I suppose the Grand
    : Duchess' choker and two other necklaces and
    : earring set and brooch and bracelets were
    : among these jewels on the table.
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    : This topic was started by Dmitry (far
    : below),
    : that prompted me to search in the Library of
    : Congress collection. This was what I found
    : several days ago. I am sure most, if not
    : all, of you already had seen this picture of
    : the whole array of Russian Crown Jewels on
    : the table. I put here this whole picture,
    : plus zoomed-up snippets of all portions of
    : the whole table, starting from the left to
    : the right.
    :
    : There appears to be 13 tiaras in total in
    : the whole picture. Question: how many of
    : them ARE NOT in existence anymore or of
    : whose whereabouts are currently UNKNOWN?
    :
    : Source: Library of Congress, from the
    : "New York Tribune" (NY) dated Dec.
    : 17, 1922 (published on the front page).
    :
    : The whole picture of the array of jewels
    : and non-jewel pieces on the table
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    : Caption:
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    : From the left side to the right side (with
    : upwards and downwards across the left to
    : right sides):
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    : The End.
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    : It staggers me how many the Russian royal
    : family actually possessed because there were
    : a lot of other jewel pieces (pre-Russian
    : Revolution of 1917) that were either carried
    : into other European royal families via
    : marriages, bought by some members of the
    : other Royal Families (i.e., Britain), and
    : smuggled out of Russia during the
    : Revolution. Or lost during the transition
    : out of that country.
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