If only the Duchess of Connaught would have looked straight into the camera! I must admit she had a lovely profile though. --Previous Message-- : Oje, actually I was so curious to knew more : about the other piece auctioned I didnīt : read your postings properly. Indeed we : discussed the Tiara of PHelena Victoria. : On the other hand I think my mistake is : excusable for the tiara of the Duchess of : Connaught matches very well to the : description apart from the question of the : centre which isnīt visible on the foto. Iīve : some problems to see eighteen graduated : ribbons and collet scrolls at the one of : PHelena Victoria. : We need a better picture. : : --Previous Message-- : : Hi Laura- yes we were discussing the tiara : you refer to. I saw on another site that : this tiara was auctioned in 1974, the link : is provided in my earlier post and Jonathan : provided a description from the auction : catalogue, we were assuming that this : referred to the tiara we were discussing. : However, Juscha has quite rightly pointed : out that this could refer to another tiara : worn by the Duchess of Connaught, the : description does say a plume centre which I : feel fits the tiara we were originally were : discussing. Hope this makes sense! : : --Previous Message-- : Hello Stuart and Juscha : : My understanding was that the tiara that we : are discussing was the property of Princess : Helena Victoria who left it to her sister : Princess Mary Louise who in turn left it to : her cousin Princess Patricia. : : Laura : : --Previous Message-- : I think you may be correct there- the tiara : in : the coronation photo worn by the Duchess of : Connaught does seem to have 18 scrolls and : the shamrocks could be described as trefoils : I suppose. I just feel that a plume centre : fits more ith the tiara worn by Helena : Victoria at the 1937 coronation. : Is there a clearer photo of the wedding : present/shamrock tiara? Particularly of the : centre? : : :