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    Re: Florentine Diamond Archived Message

    Posted by Beth1 on July 8, 2014, 3:54 pm, in reply to "Re: Florentine Diamond"

    Thank you Arthur. What an interesting history. I can only imagine how shocked the Emperor would have been to have had the jewels stolen by someone he trusted.

    --Previous Message--
    : Hello Beth1, and welcome Fiorentino82!
    :
    : The Florentine Diamond (also known as the
    : Tuscan, the Tuscany Diamond, the Grand Duke
    : of Tuscany, the Austrian Diamond and the
    : Austrian Yellow Diamond) was a big yellow
    : diamond, which was formerly in the
    : possession of the Habsburg family. It was
    : light yellow in colour with very slight
    : green overtones. It was cut in the form of
    : an irregular (although very intricate)
    : nine-sided 126-facet double rose cut, with a
    : weight of 137.27 carats (in other words: it
    : was a BIG diamond!).
    :
    : The early history of the stone is unclear.
    : According to some versions, it belonged to
    : Charles the Bold, Duke of Burgundy in the
    : 15th century. After his death, the stone
    : would have been in possession of the
    : Sforzas, the Popes, and finally the Medici.
    : Another version tells the diamond would have
    : been bought in India by the Portuguese
    : governor of Goa, from where the stone would
    : have been sent to Rome, then to Florence.
    :
    : The stone is clearly documented from 1657
    : on, when the French explorer Jean-Baptiste
    : Tavernier describes the diamond in the
    : collection of Ferdinando II de Medici, Grand
    : Duke of Tuscany. Later, Francis of Lorraine,
    : husband of Empress Maria-Teresia of Austria,
    : became Grand-Duke of Tuscany in 1737 after
    : the extinction of the Medici family, and he
    : brought the Florentine diamond to Vienna,
    : where it was stored in the Imperial Treasure
    : at the Hofburg.
    :
    : The diamond must have been considered a
    : private property of the Habsburgs, because
    : when monarchy was abolished in Austria after
    : WW1, Emperor Charles took it with him (among
    : other jewels) when he was forced into exile.
    : Charles, who was in need for cash after all
    : his properties were confiscated without
    : compensation, gave the jewels to a Zurich
    : banker named Bruno Steiner and asked him in
    : 1921 to sell the jewels. Unfortunately,
    : Steiner stole the jewels and disappeared -
    : of course without giving the expected money
    : to the exiled Emperor (who died a few months
    : later in Madeira in extreme poverty). The
    : jewels (including the Florentine diamond and
    : a ruby and diamond parure, whose stones were
    : said to have belonged to Queen
    : Marie-Antoinette of France and to her
    : daughter Madame Royale) have never been seen
    : again since then...
    :
    : Here is a link to the Wikipedia page about
    : the Florentine diamond:
    :
    : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florentine_Diamond
    :
    : Here are (still from Wikipedia) pictures
    : from the diamond: on the left, a glass
    : replica of the diamond (from the "Reich
    : der Kristalle" museum in Munich), and
    : on the right, a late 19th-century picture of
    : the diamond, included in a diamond cap
    : decoration.
    :
    :
    :
    : I do not think that the big pear-shaped
    : diamond worn by Archduchess Isabella on the
    : picture posted by Fiorentino82 is the
    : Florentine. As said above, the Florentine
    : was among the private possessions of the
    : Emperor, so there is no reason why it should
    : have come onto Archduchess Isabella's head.
    : Her husband, Archduke Frederick of
    : Habsburg-Teschen, was a rather distant
    : (though well-known and respected) cousin of
    : the Emperor. Archduke Frederick owned large
    : estates in Bohemia and Hungary and was a
    : very wealthy man, who could certainly afford
    : splendid jewels for his ambitious wife...
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : Hello Fiorentino82. I am intrigued by your
    : mention of this diamond, as I have never
    : heard of it before. Could you give me some
    : information about it, please. It is always
    : fascinating to learn about new (or to me)
    : jewels. Many thanks.
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : Hi All,
    :
    : This is my first post here ))
    : I have always been fascinated by the
    : Austrian Habsburgs but in the matter of
    : their jewels records are very rare. Although
    : from time to time some piece ressurface in
    : internet. So I have many detectives work
    : ahead, my first mystery is about the very
    : sizeable diamond that archduchess Isabelle
    : of Teschen seems wearing in her hat. Is it
    : the famous Fiorentino? Or another from what
    : I have read this line of the habsburg was
    : the richest one. Can anybody bring some
    : light?
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : http://www.gogmsite.net/the-belle-epoque-1890-1914/1909-archduchess-isabelle-d.html
    :
    : (I hope i added properly the link for the
    : image I'm talking about)
    :
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