Thanks Dawn. Henry VII's piece looks like the Golden Fleece pendant or resembles it. --Previous Message-- : I enjoyed reading some of your wonderful and : insightful details re: medieval jewels of : the Tudors. Thank you all! : : Not only these people in portraits already : posted here wore them, there are also : interesting jewel pieces (mostly pearls and : gemstones) worn by Tudor men as well as : Catherine Howard and Thomas Howard, 3rd Duke : of Norfolk (uncle to both Catherine Howard : and Anne Boleyn, 5th and 2nd queens of Henry : VIII, respectively). Same source: 'The Six : Wives of Henry VIII by G.W.O.Woodward (pub. : in 1971). : : Catherine Howard : : : Thomas Howard, 3rd Duke of Norfolk : (interesting note here is that he appears to : have these red Tudor roses on, what do you : call it, the collar?, even though he was : just related to the Tudors by marriage : twice). : : : King Henry VIII, (I presume) his wife Jane : Seymour (although she should be long dead : since her son was in this portrait), his son : later King Edward VI, and on the far left : (as you look at it) his daughter later Queen : Mary I, and on the far right (as you look at : it) his other daughter later Queen Elizabeth : I. They had jewels mostly of pearls. I tried : to zoom it up individually to see details of : the jewels but that was impossible. : : : King Henry VII (the central pendant reminds : me of a jewel piece from one of the : Scandinivan monarchies....is it Danish?). He : holds a red rose of the House of Lancaster. : : : Elizabeth of York (daughter of King Edward : IV, wife of King Henry VII, mother of King : Henry VIII, grandmother of Queens Mary I and : Elizabeth I & King Edward VI and : great-great-grandmother of King James I, : [therefore a direct ancestress of the : current British royal family], and sister of : King Edward V, & niece of King Richard : III). She holds a white rose of the House of : York. So it looks like red and white roses : merged into one red and white rose that : shows up in Tudor jewelry. : : : Arthur, Prince of Wales (older brother of : King Henry VIII and first husband of : Catherine of Aragon). Shows a couple of : roses on his hat and some pearl jewels and : some roses with gemstones on his collar. : : : King Henry VIII at various times wore : jewels consisting of pearls and others. : : Around the age of 30 years : : : Around the time he was involved : romantically with Anne Boleyn. : : : 1536 (in this same year, he was married to : Jane Seymour as soon as he had Anne Boleyn : executed). : : : Unknown year: : : : Unknown year: : : : : --Previous Message-- : Source: The Six Wives of Henry VIII by : G.W.O. : Woodward (published in 1971). : : I was looking at various portraits in this : little book when I noticed something. It : appears Queen Mary I had combined jewels : from Jane Seymour, 3rd queen of King Henry : VIII. : : I am sure this portrait is of Jane Seymour, : although the caption did not state who she : was. : : : : But I zoomed up Jane's picture from the : larger photo (it's said to be the family of : Henry VIII created by van Leemput, which was : copied from a life-size fresco by Holbein : that was present at the palace of Whitehall : which was destroyed in 1698. See the larger : one, below). The people above King Henry : VIII have to be Henry's parents, King Henry : VII and Queen Elizabeth [formerly Elizabeth : of York], therefore the younger lady has to : be Henry VIII's 3rd queen (for two reasons: : Jane was the only one of his wives to give : birth to a living son and also in that : portrait and one other portrait both ladies : looked alike enough to be one same person : which was Jane Seymour). : : : The point of posting these pictures above is : Jane's "T" shaped gemstones : (acting as a pendant from one strand of : pearl necklace). Keep that in mind when you : look at other pictures below. : : This portrait (below) is of Jane Seymour. : You may see that she had a : double-strand-pearl choker with alternating : gemstones surrounded by gold. Keep this in : mind when you look at Queen Mary I's : portrait further below. : : : Queen Mary I had this : double-strand-pearl-choker with alternating : gemstones surrounded by gold, with the : "T" shaped gemstones acting as a : pendant hanging from it. : : : What do you think? : : : :