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    Re: Medieval English Jewels Archived Message

    Posted by karenl on July 13, 2014, 11:43 pm, in reply to "Re: Medieval English Jewels"


    Thanks Dawn. Henry VII's piece looks like the Golden Fleece pendant or resembles it.
    --Previous Message--
    : I enjoyed reading some of your wonderful and
    : insightful details re: medieval jewels of
    : the Tudors. Thank you all!
    :
    : Not only these people in portraits already
    : posted here wore them, there are also
    : interesting jewel pieces (mostly pearls and
    : gemstones) worn by Tudor men as well as
    : Catherine Howard and Thomas Howard, 3rd Duke
    : of Norfolk (uncle to both Catherine Howard
    : and Anne Boleyn, 5th and 2nd queens of Henry
    : VIII, respectively). Same source: 'The Six
    : Wives of Henry VIII by G.W.O.Woodward (pub.
    : in 1971).
    :
    : Catherine Howard
    :
    :
    : Thomas Howard, 3rd Duke of Norfolk
    : (interesting note here is that he appears to
    : have these red Tudor roses on, what do you
    : call it, the collar?, even though he was
    : just related to the Tudors by marriage
    : twice).
    :
    :
    : King Henry VIII, (I presume) his wife Jane
    : Seymour (although she should be long dead
    : since her son was in this portrait), his son
    : later King Edward VI, and on the far left
    : (as you look at it) his daughter later Queen
    : Mary I, and on the far right (as you look at
    : it) his other daughter later Queen Elizabeth
    : I. They had jewels mostly of pearls. I tried
    : to zoom it up individually to see details of
    : the jewels but that was impossible.
    :
    :
    : King Henry VII (the central pendant reminds
    : me of a jewel piece from one of the
    : Scandinivan monarchies....is it Danish?). He
    : holds a red rose of the House of Lancaster.
    :
    :
    : Elizabeth of York (daughter of King Edward
    : IV, wife of King Henry VII, mother of King
    : Henry VIII, grandmother of Queens Mary I and
    : Elizabeth I & King Edward VI and
    : great-great-grandmother of King James I,
    : [therefore a direct ancestress of the
    : current British royal family], and sister of
    : King Edward V, & niece of King Richard
    : III). She holds a white rose of the House of
    : York. So it looks like red and white roses
    : merged into one red and white rose that
    : shows up in Tudor jewelry.
    :
    :
    : Arthur, Prince of Wales (older brother of
    : King Henry VIII and first husband of
    : Catherine of Aragon). Shows a couple of
    : roses on his hat and some pearl jewels and
    : some roses with gemstones on his collar.
    :
    :
    : King Henry VIII at various times wore
    : jewels consisting of pearls and others.
    :
    : Around the age of 30 years
    :
    :
    : Around the time he was involved
    : romantically with Anne Boleyn.
    :
    :
    : 1536 (in this same year, he was married to
    : Jane Seymour as soon as he had Anne Boleyn
    : executed).
    :
    :
    : Unknown year:
    :
    :
    : Unknown year:
    :
    :
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : Source: The Six Wives of Henry VIII by
    : G.W.O.
    : Woodward (published in 1971).
    :
    : I was looking at various portraits in this
    : little book when I noticed something. It
    : appears Queen Mary I had combined jewels
    : from Jane Seymour, 3rd queen of King Henry
    : VIII.
    :
    : I am sure this portrait is of Jane Seymour,
    : although the caption did not state who she
    : was.
    :
    :
    :
    : But I zoomed up Jane's picture from the
    : larger photo (it's said to be the family of
    : Henry VIII created by van Leemput, which was
    : copied from a life-size fresco by Holbein
    : that was present at the palace of Whitehall
    : which was destroyed in 1698. See the larger
    : one, below). The people above King Henry
    : VIII have to be Henry's parents, King Henry
    : VII and Queen Elizabeth [formerly Elizabeth
    : of York], therefore the younger lady has to
    : be Henry VIII's 3rd queen (for two reasons:
    : Jane was the only one of his wives to give
    : birth to a living son and also in that
    : portrait and one other portrait both ladies
    : looked alike enough to be one same person
    : which was Jane Seymour).
    :
    :
    : The point of posting these pictures above is
    : Jane's "T" shaped gemstones
    : (acting as a pendant from one strand of
    : pearl necklace). Keep that in mind when you
    : look at other pictures below.
    :
    : This portrait (below) is of Jane Seymour.
    : You may see that she had a
    : double-strand-pearl choker with alternating
    : gemstones surrounded by gold. Keep this in
    : mind when you look at Queen Mary I's
    : portrait further below.
    :
    :
    : Queen Mary I had this
    : double-strand-pearl-choker with alternating
    : gemstones surrounded by gold, with the
    : "T" shaped gemstones acting as a
    : pendant hanging from it.
    :
    :
    : What do you think?
    :
    :
    :
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