The ring "shaped like a playing card" is not Camillas engagement ring and has nothing to do with Mrs Greville
--Previous Message-- : Dear all, : : I have made the following list of jewels : given by Mrs Greville (from more than 60 : jewels given) : : : - The Boucheron honeycomb tiara (now worn by : Camilla)(official) : - The 3/5 strand diamond necklace (Camilla) : - Diamond drop earrings (Queen : Mother))(official) : - Modern cut chandelier earrings (Queen) - : mostly worn with George VI festoon : necklace)(official) : - An diamond ring shaped like a playing : cards (Might be the engagement ring of : Camilla) : - an square diamond ring ; : - an Emerald and diamond tiara ? : - Emerald and diamond necklace with a : pendant (Queen Mother - pic) : - Emerald and diamond earrings : - Emerald and diamond bracelet : - an emerald and diamond brooch (One worn by : Camilla) : - An emerald ring : - A ruby and diamond necklace (worn by young : Queen))(official) : - Pearls necklaces (Field, Menkes, Morton, : Meylan) : - The greville bow brooch ; )(official) : - The greville Ivy Leaf clips ; )(official) : - the Greville scroll pear and diamond : brooch )(official) : : - A double greek key tiara ? : - A small diamond tiara ? : : : --Previous Message-- : : Oh yes it would be great if Vincent could : give us more information concerning this : tiara. : : I have read several articles owning to link : given by Beth saying that she had a huge : collection of pearls and emeralds, one of : the most important of europe. : : Frnck : : : --Previous Message-- : I recently saw a picture of this tiara that : has been posted online, but am not sure if : this is the tiara as I don't have Vincent's : book unfortunately. It has a large cabochon : emerald in the center and some smaller : square emeralds on the sides. : Vincent, are you able to tell us more here : about this tiara at this stage? It would be : interesting to know if it still exists ? : Thank you. : : --Previous Message-- : The emerald tiara does look lovely and would : indeed look perfect with the Delhi Durbar : necklace but of course we do not know if it : is still in existence or indeed was : inherited by the Queen in 1942. : The tiara was in existence a decade earlier : when Mrs Greville seems to have severed her : ties with Boucheron who had made it and : shifted her allegiance to Cartier. If the : tiara survived intact...was reset or : disposed of we can only speculate unless one : day it reappears... : : --Previous Message-- : Thank you very much, Beth, for providing : these : very interesting links. : : I second Franck's comments: it is very : interesting to note that this article : mentions the Greville emerald tiara as being : part of the Greville bequest. If this : article is not wrong, I wonder why this very : beautiful tiara (a picture of it is : published in Vincent Meylan's book about : Boucheron), with a very large and impressive : central cabochon emerald, has never been : seen in public since it entered the royal : jewel collection. I am not sure it would : be a good match to the Greville emerald : necklace (whose emeralds are facetted, not : cabochon), but I think it would be a very : good complement to the Delhi Durbar emerald : necklace. : : If King George VI had reservations about his : wife wearing the Greville jewels, it was : probably in reference to the WW2 context. In : those dark, terrible years, when so many : people of the UK and of the Commonwealth : were facing death, either on the battlefield : or through bombings onto their homes, he : (rightly) felt that any display of major : pageantry would have been unappropriate in : such circumstances. : : And even the years immediately following the : victory in 1945 were still tough times, with : strict rationing of food, energy, fabric... : Probably the King's sense of "public : relations" (as we say nowadays) warned : him against possible negative reactions : against the simultaneous appearing of too : many lavish jewels. The Royal tour to South : Africa in 1947, with Princess Elizabeth's : 21st birthday, gave a good (i.e. acceptable) : opportunity to display again the usual : pageantry of the British royalty. : : I wonder if another reservation from King : George VI could have come from the fact that : such a large and impressive jewel collection : was given by a private person, and thus : could have made the Royal family beholden to : this particular person, thus threatening the : King's independance and authority. : But I do not think this argument is very : convincing. It was quite customary for the : British Royal family to accept jewellery : gifts from the British nobility (see the : numerous wedding gifts presented to Queen : Mary by all the grand aristocratic : families!). And in the case of Mrs Greville, : it was known that she was a personal friend : of the King and Queen, and that she had no : immediate heirs, so I guess there was : nothing wrong in accepting such a bequest. : : Or could it be a mere (and more intimate) : feeling of jealousy from King George VI? : From the early months of their marriage : until his death in 1952, he used to present : regularly nice jewels to his beloved wife... : but he never gifted her with such impressive : jewels like the Greville Honeycomb tiara, : the Greville five-row festoon necklace or : the huge Greville diamond drop earrings (I : think his "biggest" gifts were the : Cartier Halo Tiara, the Aquamarine Pine : Tiara or Queen Elizabeth's Coronation : riviere). Maybe he could have felt that his : own personal gifts were : "outranked" by such a large and : lavish bequest??? : : Of course, this is my very own speculation. : Unless we discover documents in the Royal : Archives about the Greville bequest, we will : never know what were King George VI's : feelings regarding this bequest. : : : : : : : : : : :
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