Queen Olga of Greece's jewels inherited by her children

Posted by Carlo on July 23, 2012, 6:55 pm
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The information of how where the late Queen Olga of Greece's jewels divided among her children, we can either take from very rare sources, or we can assume by the photos of their male children's wives. For instance, we can assume the following: - the emeralds set went to HM the King Constantine I, since they were worn by his son's wife, Princess Elizabeth of Romania. - the ruby set went to Nicholas, husband of HIH the Grand Duchess Helen Wladimirowna of Russia. - the important diamond and pearls corsage brooch and maybe other pices too went to Prince George, the husband of the flamboyant Princess Marie Bonaparte. Their heirs recently sold the diamonds and pearls corsage brooch and an important sapphire parure, but I think the latter belonged to Princess Marie of Greece, then to her daughter Princess Eugenie Radziwil, then Princess Della Torre e Tasso. - the turquoises parure went to the youngest male, Prince Christopher of Greece, according to his son, Prince Michael of Greece. Any other information on this subject? Thank you in advance.

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Posted by Tamara on July 23, 2012, 7:44 pm, in reply to "Queen Olga of Greece's jewels inherited by her children"
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Here is a great closeup I meant to post....better late then never --Previous Message-- : The information of how where the late Queen : Olga of Greece's jewels divided among her : children, we can either take from very rare : sources, or we can assume by the photos of : their male children's wives. : For instance, we can assume the following: : - the emeralds set went to HM the King : Constantine I, since they were worn by his : son's wife, Princess Elizabeth of Romania. : - the ruby set went to Nicholas, husband of : HIH the Grand Duchess Helen Wladimirowna of : Russia. : - the important diamond and pearls corsage : brooch and maybe other pices too went to : Prince George, the husband of the flamboyant : Princess Marie Bonaparte. Their heirs : recently sold the diamonds and pearls : corsage brooch and an important sapphire : parure, but I think the latter belonged to : Princess Marie of Greece, then to her : daughter Princess Eugenie Radziwil, then : Princess Della Torre e Tasso. : - the turquoises parure went to the youngest : male, Prince Christopher of Greece, : according to his son, Prince Michael of : Greece. : : Any other information on this subject? Thank : you in advance. :

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Posted by SarahN on July 23, 2012, 9:54 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen Olga of Greece's jewels inherited by her children"
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Whose decolletage is this? --Previous Message-- : Here is a great closeup I meant to : post....better late then never : : : : : : --Previous Message-- : The information of how where the late Queen : Olga of Greece's jewels divided among her : children, we can either take from very rare : sources, or we can assume by the photos of : their male children's wives. : For instance, we can assume the following: : - the emeralds set went to HM the King : Constantine I, since they were worn by his : son's wife, Princess Elizabeth of Romania. : - the ruby set went to Nicholas, husband of : HIH the Grand Duchess Helen Wladimirowna of : Russia. : - the important diamond and pearls corsage : brooch and maybe other pices too went to : Prince George, the husband of the flamboyant : Princess Marie Bonaparte. Their heirs : recently sold the diamonds and pearls : corsage brooch and an important sapphire : parure, but I think the latter belonged to : Princess Marie of Greece, then to her : daughter Princess Eugenie Radziwil, then : Princess Della Torre e Tasso. : - the turquoises parure went to the youngest : male, Prince Christopher of Greece, : according to his son, Prince Michael of : Greece. : : Any other information on this subject? Thank : you in advance. : : :

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Posted by Tamara on July 23, 2012, 10:38 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen Olga of Greece's jewels inherited by her children"
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one of the employee at the auction house...who was modeling the jewels --Previous Message-- : Whose decolletage is this? : : --Previous Message-- : Here is a great closeup I meant to : post....better late then never : : : : : : --Previous Message-- : The information of how where the late Queen : Olga of Greece's jewels divided among her : children, we can either take from very rare : sources, or we can assume by the photos of : their male children's wives. : For instance, we can assume the following: : - the emeralds set went to HM the King : Constantine I, since they were worn by his : son's wife, Princess Elizabeth of Romania. : - the ruby set went to Nicholas, husband of : HIH the Grand Duchess Helen Wladimirowna of : Russia. : - the important diamond and pearls corsage : brooch and maybe other pices too went to : Prince George, the husband of the flamboyant : Princess Marie Bonaparte. Their heirs : recently sold the diamonds and pearls : corsage brooch and an important sapphire : parure, but I think the latter belonged to : Princess Marie of Greece, then to her : daughter Princess Eugenie Radziwil, then : Princess Della Torre e Tasso. : - the turquoises parure went to the youngest : male, Prince Christopher of Greece, : according to his son, Prince Michael of : Greece. : : Any other information on this subject? Thank : you in advance. : : : : :

Re: Queen Olga of Greece's jewels inherited by her children

Posted by Ashdean on July 24, 2012, 1:50 am, in reply to "Queen Olga of Greece's jewels inherited by her children"
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Princess Nina of Russia daughter of Princess Marie (Olga's daughter) received a diamond crown brooch which she later sold to buy a home on Cape Cod.This is mentioned in her son David Chavachavadze's autobiography.

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Posted by Carlo on July 24, 2012, 2:33 am, in reply to "Re: Queen Olga of Greece's jewels inherited by her children"
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I would like to see a photo of Queen Olga wearing her turquoises and diamonds set, the one which was inherited by Prince Christopher. For instance, it was only in recent years that we were all able to see a photo of Queen Olga wearing her emeralds. For many years there were not photos published to prove how Queen Olga wore her emeralds (part of them on a material kokoschnik). --Previous Message-- : Princess Nina of Russia daughter of Princess : Marie (Olga's daughter) received a diamond : crown brooch which she later sold to buy a : home on Cape Cod.This is mentioned in her : son David Chavachavadze's autobiography. :

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Posted by Pierre on July 24, 2012, 5:37 am, in reply to "Re: Queen Olga of Greece's jewels inherited by her children"

Carlo, Have you ever seen pictures of the turquoise set worn by any one? I have personally never seen the set unless my memory is playing with me... Again lol... Thanks! --Previous Message-- : I would like to see a photo of Queen Olga : wearing her turquoises and diamonds set, the : one which was inherited by Prince : Christopher. : For instance, it was only in recent years : that we were all able to see a photo of : Queen Olga wearing her emeralds. For many : years there were not photos published to : prove how Queen Olga wore her emeralds (part : of them on a material kokoschnik). : : --Previous Message-- : Princess Nina of Russia daughter of Princess : Marie (Olga's daughter) received a diamond : crown brooch which she later sold to buy a : home on Cape Cod.This is mentioned in her : son David Chavachavadze's autobiography. : : : Pierre

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Posted by Alejandro E. on July 24, 2012, 5:42 am, in reply to "Re: Queen Olga of Greece's jewels inherited by her children"
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I think that princess Françoise of Orleàns wore it. Regards! --Previous Message-- : Carlo, : : Have you ever seen pictures of the turquoise : set worn by any one? I have personally never : seen the set unless my memory is playing : with me... Again lol... : : Thanks! : : --Previous Message-- : I would like to see a photo of Queen Olga : wearing her turquoises and diamonds set, the : one which was inherited by Prince : Christopher. : For instance, it was only in recent years : that we were all able to see a photo of : Queen Olga wearing her emeralds. For many : years there were not photos published to : prove how Queen Olga wore her emeralds (part : of them on a material kokoschnik). : : --Previous Message-- : Princess Nina of Russia daughter of Princess : Marie (Olga's daughter) received a diamond : crown brooch which she later sold to buy a : home on Cape Cod.This is mentioned in her : son David Chavachavadze's autobiography. : : : : : :

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Posted by Dmitry on July 24, 2012, 6:52 am, in reply to "Re: Queen Olga of Greece's jewels inherited by her children"
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She did indeed wear them and they were similar to, if not identical, to the suite in the Russian Crown jewels. --Previous Message-- : I think that princess Françoise of Orleàns : wore it. : : Regards! : : --Previous Message-- : Carlo, : : Have you ever seen pictures of the turquoise : set worn by any one? I have personally never : seen the set unless my memory is playing : with me... Again lol... : : Thanks! : : --Previous Message-- : I would like to see a photo of Queen Olga : wearing her turquoises and diamonds set, the : one which was inherited by Prince : Christopher. : For instance, it was only in recent years : that we were all able to see a photo of : Queen Olga wearing her emeralds. For many : years there were not photos published to : prove how Queen Olga wore her emeralds (part : of them on a material kokoschnik). : : --Previous Message-- : Princess Nina of Russia daughter of Princess : Marie (Olga's daughter) received a diamond : crown brooch which she later sold to buy a : home on Cape Cod.This is mentioned in her : son David Chavachavadze's autobiography. : : : : : : : :

Princess Françoise of Greece wearing the turquoises

Posted by Carlo on July 25, 2012, 2:28 am, in reply to "Re: Queen Olga of Greece's jewels inherited by her children"
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Here is a photo of Princess Françoise of Greece, née Princess of Orléans-France, wearing the turquoises parure inherited by her husband, Prince Christopher of Greece from his mother, the late Queen Olga of Greece, and a photo of part of the turquoises and diamonds set: a href="http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/CARLO57/?action=view¤t=de77fca0.jpg" target="_blank">

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Posted by Pierre on July 25, 2012, 5:10 am, in reply to "Princess Françoise of Greece wearing the turquoises"
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Thank you Carlo. I now remember this picture. Stunning piece. Do we know the whereabouts of the parure? --Previous Message-- : Here is a photo of Princess Françoise of : Greece, née Princess of Orléans-France, : wearing the turquoises parure inherited by : her husband, Prince Christopher of Greece : from his mother, the late Queen Olga of : Greece, and a photo of part of the : turquoises and diamonds set: : : a : href="http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/CARLO57/?action=view¤t=de77fca0.jpg" : target="_blank"> : : Pierre

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Posted by Dmitry on July 25, 2012, 6:30 am, in reply to "Princess Françoise of Greece wearing the turquoises"
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Just for clarity, the picture of the tiara is the one from the Crown Jewels, colourized. --Previous Message-- : Here is a photo of Princess Françoise of : Greece, née Princess of Orléans-France, : wearing the turquoises parure inherited by : her husband, Prince Christopher of Greece : from his mother, the late Queen Olga of : Greece, and a photo of part of the : turquoises and diamonds set: : : a : href="http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/CARLO57/?action=view¤t=de77fca0.jpg" : target="_blank"> : :

Re: Princess Françoise of Greece wearing the turquoises

Posted by Maria Olivia on July 25, 2012, 6:31 am, in reply to "Princess Françoise of Greece wearing the turquoises"
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I hope they were not sold by the Count de Paris who was in charge of his young nephew Prince Michel de Grece. --Previous Message-- : Here is a photo of Princess Françoise of : Greece, née Princess of Orléans-France, : wearing the turquoises parure inherited by : her husband, Prince Christopher of Greece : from his mother, the late Queen Olga of : Greece, and a photo of part of the : turquoises and diamonds set: : : a : href="http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/CARLO57/?action=view¤t=de77fca0.jpg" : target="_blank"> : :

Re: Princess Françoise of Greece wearing the turquoises

Posted by Carlo on July 25, 2012, 6:53 am, in reply to "Re: Princess Françoise of Greece wearing the turquoises"
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Princess Françoise's son, Prince Michael of Greece, writes in his book "Mémoires insolites", that his father died pennyless when he was only one year old. The widowed Princess Françoise was obliged to sell the family jewels, and also the Villa Anastasia in Rome was sold (it had been bought with the money of Christopher's first wife Nancy Stewart Worthington Leeds - Princess Anastasia of Greece) . When Michael's maternal grand-mother died in 1961 he inherited his share of the Orléans fortune, which in those years was quite considerable.

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Posted by Glenn on July 25, 2012, 9:45 am, in reply to "Re: Princess Françoise of Greece wearing the turquoises"
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I hope HRH Crown Princess Marie-Chantal will track down this parure and buy it 'back' to the family :o)

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Posted by Maria Olivia on July 25, 2012, 10:18 am, in reply to "Re: Princess Françoise of Greece wearing the turquoises"
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To Carlo Thanks for your informations It depends how the Comte de Paris managed Prince Michael Heritage? Do you have an idea ? Thanks for answer MO --Previous Message-- : Princess Françoise's son, Prince Michael of : Greece, writes in his book "Mémoires : insolites", that his father died : pennyless when he was only one year old. : : The widowed Princess Françoise was obliged : to sell the family jewels, and also the : Villa Anastasia in Rome was sold (it had : been bought with the money of Christopher's : first wife Nancy Stewart Worthington Leeds - : Princess Anastasia of Greece) . : : When Michael's maternal grand-mother died in : 1961 he inherited his share of the Orléans : fortune, which in those years was quite : considerable. :

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Posted by Radama on July 25, 2012, 11:24 am, in reply to "Re: Princess Françoise of Greece wearing the turquoises"
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Indeed, this turquoise tiara would be marvellous on her blond hair ! --Previous Message-- : I hope HRH Crown Princess Marie-Chantal will : track down this parure and buy it 'back' to : the family :o) : Radama

Queen Olga's corsage brooch inherited by Prince George of Greece

Posted by Carlo on July 25, 2012, 12:19 pm, in reply to "Re: Princess Françoise of Greece wearing the turquoises"
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Here is the important corsage brooch sold recently by the descendants of Prince George and Princess Marie of Greece: --Previous Message-- : : Indeed, this turquoise tiara would be : marvellous on her blond hair ! : : --Previous Message-- : I hope HRH Crown Princess Marie-Chantal will : track down this parure and buy it 'back' to : the family :o) : : :

Re: Princess Françoise of Greece wearing the turquoises

Posted by Dmitry on July 25, 2012, 1:28 pm, in reply to "Princess Françoise of Greece wearing the turquoises"
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here is another view of the jewels, a clearer one --Previous Message-- : Here is a photo of Princess Françoise of : Greece, née Princess of Orléans-France, : wearing the turquoises parure inherited by : her husband, Prince Christopher of Greece : from his mother, the late Queen Olga of : Greece, and a photo of part of the : turquoises and diamonds set: : : a : href="http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/CARLO57/?action=view¤t=de77fca0.jpg" : target="_blank"> : :

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Posted by Dmitry on July 25, 2012, 3:07 pm, in reply to "Re: Princess Françoise of Greece wearing the turquoises"
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That didn't work out very well. Here is the link. It is from the Alexander Palace website, about half way down the page. http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=1615.165 --Previous Message-- : here is another view of the jewels, a clearer : one : : --Previous Message-- : Here is a photo of Princess Françoise of : Greece, née Princess of Orléans-France, : wearing the turquoises parure inherited by : her husband, Prince Christopher of Greece : from his mother, the late Queen Olga of : Greece, and a photo of part of the : turquoises and diamonds set: : : a : : href="http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/CARLO57/?action=view¤t=de77fca0.jpg" : target="_blank"> : : : :

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Posted by Torkel on July 25, 2012, 5:06 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen Olga of Greece's jewels inherited by her children"
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This might be one of the similar diamond crown brooches received by all the Grand Duchesses of Russia - I believe it was for the coronation of Nicholai II. --Previous Message-- : Princess Nina of Russia daughter of Princess : Marie (Olga's daughter) received a diamond : crown brooch which she later sold to buy a : home on Cape Cod.This is mentioned in her : son David Chavachavadze's autobiography. :

Re: Queen Olga of Greece's jewels inherited by her children

Posted by Glenn on July 25, 2012, 5:08 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen Olga of Greece's jewels inherited by her children"

yes, one was given to Anastasia, the mother of Queen Alexandrine of Denmark - her crown brooch is now with her grand daughter, Princess Elisabeth. It is this brooch that is on the cover of Bjarne's book.

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Posted by SarahN on July 25, 2012, 6:38 pm, in reply to "Re: Princess Françoise of Greece wearing the turquoises"
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What happened to the money Prince Christopher had received from his first wife - did he spend it all, or bad investments during the Depression? --Previous Message-- : Princess Françoise's son, Prince Michael of : Greece, writes in his book "Mémoires : insolites", that his father died : pennyless when he was only one year old. : : The widowed Princess Françoise was obliged : to sell the family jewels, and also the : Villa Anastasia in Rome was sold (it had : been bought with the money of Christopher's : first wife Nancy Stewart Worthington Leeds - : Princess Anastasia of Greece) . : : When Michael's maternal grand-mother died in : 1961 he inherited his share of the Orléans : fortune, which in those years was quite : considerable. :

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Posted by Dmitry on July 26, 2012, 5:45 pm, in reply to "Re: Princess Françoise of Greece wearing the turquoises"
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If I recall correctly, the terms of William Leeds'will provided his widow with the use and enjoyment of the money during her lifetime, but the bulk reverted to William Leeds' Jr. upon her death. Her personal and transferable wealth was limited. --Previous Message-- : What happened to the money Prince Christopher : had received from his first wife - did he : spend it all, or bad investments during the : Depression? : : : : --Previous Message-- : Princess Françoise's son, Prince Michael of : Greece, writes in his book "Mémoires : insolites", that his father died : pennyless when he was only one year old. : : The widowed Princess Françoise was obliged : to sell the family jewels, and also the : Villa Anastasia in Rome was sold (it had : been bought with the money of Christopher's : first wife Nancy Stewart Worthington Leeds - : Princess Anastasia of Greece) . : : When Michael's maternal grand-mother died in : 1961 he inherited his share of the Orléans : fortune, which in those years was quite : considerable. : : :