I was at CP for Robbie's jump with Spanky . They told him 12' . Due to GW missing his ramp. Robbie also had to spend 100 k on fencing due to the people that fell when the wall collapsed. My guess is EK thought the thinner ramps looked out of place with the busses . He only used them at KI and the Kingdome. Anybody that does this stuff is a showoff they just dont have showmanship. Check out a song by Jan & Dean called I Gotta Drive I'm sure it's on youtube . And you'll be told the real reason guy's show off and want to win . GIRLS GIRLS GIRLS !!!!!!!

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: I've been in the business for 32 years and
: I've never had a venue talk to me about how
: wide they want my landing ramp.
: I don't think the X Games FMX are boring, I
: think it's cool. It's like the gymnastics
: type of competition sort of to me. No, it's
: not like a show, but it's still cool. When
: Evel was young and went to Vegas and saw
: Liberache' - he thought something like
: "what if I could be Liberache' on a
: motorcycle." Hence his showmanship
: began. Now I know he had other influence
: and his own personal charisma, I'm just
: making the point.
: Anyway there is a difference between
: competition and charisma in showmanship.
: The FMX'ers spend all their time building
: their unique skill set to do these
: incredible jumps with variations, they arn't
: into being "show off's" it's not
: their thing, they'd think it's kind of
: wacked i get the feeling, lol
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: Sometime the width of the ramp is what the
: place wants. My understanding was CP told
: Robbie he would need at least a 12' ramp.
: The problem is this new competition is as
: boring as the old jump offs became . The
: show was built on CAN HE DO THE IMPOSSIBLE
: AND JUMP 17 CARS!!!! ??? Not heres the next
: jumper and the next and the next doing it 10
: times apiece . VK was not EK'S ramps .
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: Guys Seriously, the sport is progressing as
: it
: would and should. How cool would any sport
: be if records stayed the same for 40 years?
: To say that a 30 car jump is less dangerous
: than a 15 car jump doesn't make sense. They
: may not have Evel's flair, but who does,
: really? That's why Evel (the performer) was
: so cool and why we loved him. The whole X
: Games thing isn't about showmanship but more
: for a competition perspective. I think it's
: good to have different categories for
: landing areas, sure, but it's different
: disciplines and should be respected. Nobody
: would try a 300 foot jump and land on the
: old style landing ramp (Evel's landing ramp
: was 7 feet wide for his standard
: performances, so they could be loaded in the
: trailer, I personally measured them). Even
: Evel used huge landing ramps nearing the end
: of his career. Look at the landing ramp
: used in Viva Knievel, Wembly or Kings
: Island. The deal is the length of the jump
: and to land safely. Lets learn from our
: predecessors failings (Butch Laswell). To
: do cool long jumps and land safely is the
: goal. It's irresponsible to use inferior
: equipment in the stunt business (as in any
: other profession), including ridiculously
: thin landing areas.
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: I'm old school but superman fell off a horse
: at "slow" speed and eventually
: died of that injury. But ken is right, these
: new jumpers are boring with Ramp to ramp or
: ramp to dirt jumps. Maddo's on the building
: - off the building stunt was super cool. RK
: uses a curved ramp, not sure what category
: to put him in.
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: YES any fool could jump ramp to ramp. There
: I said it. The secrets out. And to prove it,
: look at the jumpers of today, with all the
: modern equipment. And even with this
: equipment their shows are boring. No
: showmanship. No danger. You know that but
: you won't admit it. I am in more danger
: jumping 15 cars then Maddison is jumping 30
: cars. It's the way things have progressed. I
: won't comment on this subject anymore. I'll
: let the fans decide what is more dangerous,
: today's ramp to dirt so called jumpers or
: the wooden ramp to ramp, or ramp to ground
: jumpers of the early 70's.
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