I think that is a great response and makes a lot of sense. Although it is inevitable, that is why making strict comparisons between someone like Robbie and someone like Ryan isn't very helpful. They do two different things.
For my money, I would much prefer to see an Evel, Robbie, Bubba style jump than a Ryan style jump, but I appreciate both camps and respect them for their talent. It does bug me a bit, though, when folks just look at the distance without considering all the other factors involved in the jump.
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: I think its one of those things like a fish of
: out water..In Robbies style i think he would
: win. Using Rayns then he would win. Its like
: putting a UFC guy Vs a Boxer using only
: Boxing rules.. More often then not the Boxer
: would win. Put i boxer in the UFC cage under
: there rules..UFC wins..however i would like
: to see the jump off..But because im a old
: school fan, i vote for Robbie style
: ramps..But at Robbies age its not something
: he even needs to think about..
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: Here is my question:
:
: Let's take RK's Kings Island jump. It was a
: good jump, near 200 feet, he came up just a
: bit short but still landed safely. Now,
: what would happen if Ryan Capes got on the
: same motorcycle and did the exact same jump,
: using the exact same setup as Robbie. Would
: he be able to destroy Robbie's distance by
: sailing 250-300 feet? The same question
: could be asked in reverse, if Robbie used
: the same ramps and equipment for one of
: Ryan's ramp to ramp jumps, would he have
: similar success?
:
: That, I think, is how we can answer some of
: these questions. If Ryan Capes could sail
: 300 feet using the same bike and ramps that
: Robbie used and barely made 200 feet, then I
: think we could all agree that Ryan was the
: better jumper that day.
:
: I would love to see a classic, traditional
: "Jump Off" using standard 10'
: ramps between Robbie and someone like Ryan
: with the same bike, just to see what would
: happen.
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: I'd like to make some points.
:
: First, I'm not trying to start a fight or
: make waves but in Evel's heyday, how long
: did his show last? This is a legit question
: as I was never lucky enough to see him
: perform. Would one of his jumps be the
: whole show or would he perform during
: another type of show like a monster truck
: show or maybe a car race like Nascar or etc.
: If the whole show was just him, how long
: could that last? You can only do so many
: wheelies, talk to the audience, perform the
: jump and if successful talk to the audience
: again. Maybe after a successful jump you
: can have an autograph session. I don't know
: what you mean by thrill show Ken. Would you
: have other daredevils perform other kinds of
: stunts? Or are you maybe talking about a
: stunt show like Joey Chitwood had and
: perform a jump in that show? Once again,
: I'm not trying to start a fight, all legit
: questions.
:
: Second, about Ryan, I know a lot of you have
: ragged on him and the other distance jumpers
: for jumping ramp to huge dirt ramp. Ryan
: has done several, 3 that I know of, ramp to
: ramp jumps. I know he did a ramp to ramp
: that was at least 280' at Knievel Days a few
: years back. He also jumped ramp to ramp
: over 4 helicopters which had to be over
: 200', even though he did throw an FMX trick
: in. He also jumped over 300' ramp to ramp.
: Doesn't he deserve some credit for those
: ramp to ramp jumps? Aren't his distance
: jumps thrilling to watch? You can't fault
: him and other distance jumpers for making
: long and outrageous jumps look easy.
:
: Isn't throwing a trick or 2 or 3 in the
: middle of a 90 - over 100' jump considered
: thrilling to watch? If that's the case,
: wouldn't an FMX event be considered a thrill
: show? The show is a bunch of
: daredevils/stuntmen who perform amazing
: stunts for a big audience. Wouldn't that be
: considered a thrill show? When they do the
: Crusty Demons Night of Records? or something
: to that effect in Australia, they usually
: have 1 - 3 performers jumping for distance,
: even though they use a big dirt landing
: ramp. Aren't they thrilling the audience?
: In some FMX shows they use metal landing
: ramps instead of dirt. My point is what do
: these distance jumpers and FMXers have to do
: to put on a show that's considered a thrill
: show? I have a lot of respect for you Ken
: and the other old school jumpers. I also
: have a lot of respect for all jumpers,
: distance and FMXers. Sorry for my long
: post/rant.
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