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    Re: Wonderful Re: Queen Mary and rubies - collar Archived Message

    Posted by karenl on June 19, 2014, 2:35 am, in reply to "Re: Wonderful Re: Queen Mary and rubies - collar"


    Well, that may be true, I posted information that was in Leslie Field's book. Anyway, the bracelet is one of my very favorite pieces of jewelry of all time. I love it and if only a miracle would happen that I could have it!
    --Previous Message--
    : Karenl, there seems to be some dispute about
    : who gave QM the bracelet. On the Royal
    : Magazin site it is argued that it was a gift
    : from the County of Cornwall and that the
    : gift from the Duke of York was another piece
    : which QM converted into a bracelet.
    : See
    : http://www.royal-magazin.de/england/queen-mary-ruby-bracelet.htm
    : And
    : http://www.royal-magazin.de/england/diamond-rose-brooch-queen-mary.htm
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    : --Previous Message--
    :
    : Looking at your photo Alyend, I noticed
    : that Queen Mary is wearing the Rose of York
    : bracelet which was a present from her
    : husband when he was Duke of York. The
    : bracelet is made up of diamonds and rubies
    : so the collar may be rubies. The photo may
    : be of Mary when she was Duchess of York as
    : she is much younger.
    : --Previous Message--
    : You're right, she received them later. Queen
    : Mary received the larger ruby earrings now
    : property of the Crown as a 59th birthday
    : present from her husband. In the picture I
    : posted she's much younger.
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : What an interesting photo Alyend. Thank you
    : for posting it. I have never previously seen
    : some of the jewellery HM is wearing.
    : Before I start asking questions, I'll wait
    : to see if other posters can identify some of
    : the items.
    : I agree with you that the dark stones are
    : most likely rubies and the dark gems in the
    : aigrette are black pearls.
    : I also noted that the earrings HM is wearing
    : are much smaller than the crown ruby
    : earrings. I think that the King gave her the
    : latter at a much later date.
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : About the ruby dog collar, could it be the
    : one
    : in this picture? Considering she's wearing
    : the County of Cornwall bracelet, the
    : coloured stones in the dog collar could be
    : rubies:
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    : http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/af/0c/c3/af0cc37d9af6979a92976731f73ae568.jpg
    : I've found this photo just now, and I think
    : I've never seen the aigrette/tiara too.
    : Considering the shape of the darker stones
    : in it, I think they could be black pearls.
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : Thank you Nellie. I have never seen HM
    : photographed wearing such a diamond and ruby
    : item. It makes me wonder just how many
    : jewels she had which are unknown to us.
    : --Previous Message--
    :
    : Just rereading this for the use of the word
    : collar.
    : I think collar refers to what we know as a
    : dog collar.
    : See the entry for dinner at the Foreign
    : Office. Brings this pic to mind -
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    : --Previous Message--
    :
    : I have just started to browse through the
    : book Treasures from the Royal Archives
    : which arrived in the post today.
    :
    : From Queen Mary's dress book, 1911-13 it
    : states, for Dinner on June 22nd -
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    : "Pink & silver brocade gown Diamond
    : comb ruby & diamond collar, large uncut
    : ruby necklace arranged on bodice with
    : diamond drop added."
    :
    : This might surprise some who believe that
    : Queen Mary did not like rubies.
    :
    : I wonder what that large uncut ruby was.
    :
    : For Dinner on the 23rd at the Foreign Office
    : -
    :
    : "Sapphire blue & gold gown Young
    : ladies pearl & diamond tiara, pearl
    : collar with Ladies pearl & diamond
    : necklace under, pearl & diamond
    : stomacher large round pearl brooch 3 family
    : orders"
    :
    : I think "Young ladies" must mean
    : Girls, and we now know Queen Mary herself
    : used the term "stomacher.
    :
    : I feel a bit disappointed with the book
    : because it is such a teaser, providing the
    : tiniest snippets, as above. Perhaps no more
    : than that was ever likely, but one wonders
    : how and why the selections were made.
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