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    Re: And another pair of diamond earrings! Archived Message

    Posted by Beth1 on September 2, 2014, 8:09 pm, in reply to "And another pair of diamond earrings!"

    What a wonderful eye you have Arthur! Congratulations.
    I could not see the differences until I zoomed in on the photos, but then it is clear that there is a second set of earrings. The diamonds in the ones you call QEII's cluster earrings are set in claws, which makes the differences obvious. Another mystery to solve.

    --Previous Message--
    : Je vous en prie! You are welcome, Bryce,
    : it's my pleasure!
    :
    : While trying to sort out all these diamond
    : earrings, I have found... another pair! And
    : possibly another mistake in Hugh Roberts'
    : The Queen's Diamonds ...
    :
    : In the caption of a picture published in
    : The Queen's Diamonds (page 212), Roberts
    : identifies the earrings worn by Queen
    : Elizabeth during a reception at the British
    : Embassy in Riga (Latvia) in October 2006 as
    : Queen Mary's Cluster Earrings:
    :
    :
    :
    : Nevertheless, I have a strong feeling that
    : these “Riga” earrings are different from
    : QM’s Cluster Earrings – though they have a
    : similar diameter and a similar design (a
    : central diamond surrounded by two rows of
    : diamonds), which could easily explain the
    : confusion. Here are the differences I can
    : identify:
    : - while QM’s Cluster Earrings have a
    : perfectly round shape, the outer row of
    : diamonds of these “Riga” earrings has an
    : octagonal shape
    : - QM’s Cluster Earrings’ outer rows are
    : pavé-set, without any space between the
    : brilliant diamonds, whereas the “Riga”
    : earrings seem to have a small gap between
    : each row
    : - and finally, QM’s Cluster Earrings’ large
    : central diamonds are square-shaped and
    : overlap the inner row of brilliants, whereas
    : the “Riga” Earrings central diamonds are
    : smaller and rounder.
    :
    : Here are more pictures of these two pairs of
    : earrings, for a better visual comparison:
    :
    : 1) Queen Mary’s Cluster Earrings
    :
    :
    :
    : 15 May 2008: reception on board HMS
    : Illustrious in Istanbul, during the Queen’s
    : State Visit to Turkey:
    :
    :
    :
    : 21 October 2011: parliamentary reception at
    : Parliament House in Canberra, during the
    : Queen’s Visit to Australia:
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : 2) And now the “Riga” earrings, which I
    : suggest to call ‘Queen Elizabeth II’s
    : Cluster Earrings’ (until we find more
    : relevant information about the origin of
    : these earrings). If you compare the pictures
    : below with the ones above, I think you will
    : see the difference very clearly.
    :
    : 17 May 2006: Order of the Bath service at
    : Saint Paul’s Cathedral, London:
    :
    :
    :
    : 18 October 2006: Reception at the British
    : Embassy in Riga, during the Queen’s State
    : Visit to Latvia:
    :
    :
    :
    : 22 November 2007: Commonwealth Head of
    : Governments Meeting in Entebbe, Uganda:
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : 7 March 2012: Order of the British Empire
    : service at Saint Paul’s Cathedral, London:
    :
    :
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : Thanks Arthur
    : I think you have sorted these ones out for
    : me and, as always, in a very well executed
    : manner.
    : Much appreciated!
    : Merci beaucoup pour tout votre travail.
    :
    : Cheers!
    : Bryce
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : I tend to (respectfully) disagree with Joye
    : and Beth1 about the earrings in Bryce’s
    : first picture being Queen Mary’s Cluster
    : Earrings. On Bryce’s picture, we can not see
    : the central diamond of QM’s Cluster
    : Earrings, which is usually protruding rather
    : visibly from the surrounding two-row
    : cluster. It is even more obvious on this
    : picture (which seems to be from the same
    : photo session, despite the added tiara), we
    : can see that the earring is “flat” and very
    : round, so probably a solitaire diamond
    : (therefore, I would incline in favour of the
    : earrings made with the two collets removed
    : from Queen Victoria’s Coronation Necklace,
    : which are rounder than the slightly
    : square-shaped Queen Victoria’s Stud
    : Earrings):
    :
    :
    :
    : On the contrary, on Queen Mary’s Cluster
    : Earrings, the central square-shaped diamond
    : stands out quite visibly from its surround:
    :
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : Moreover, I think that Queen Mary’s Cluster
    : Earrings are slightly larger than the
    : earrings on Bryce’s first picture, but this
    : is more disputable (it might just be the
    : matter of a few millimetres).
    :
    :
    : Regarding the pear drop earrings, they are
    : of a similar design to Queen Victoria’s
    : Coronation Earrings, but there are a few
    : differences between both pairs of earrings:
    : - the intermediary collet diamonds (the ones
    : between the ear studs and the pear-shaped
    : drops) in QEII’s earrings are smaller than
    : the ones in QV’s Coronation Earrings (in
    : proportion to the other two diamonds)
    : - the pear shaped drop diamonds in QEII’s
    : earrings are smaller and a bit longer,
    : whereas the drops in QV’s Coronation
    : Earrings have a larger, rounder base
    : - and last but not least, QEII’s pear drop
    : earrings are smaller than QV’s coronation
    : earrings. Here are two side-by-side
    : pictures, for a better comparison (on the
    : left, QEII pear-drop earrings, on the right
    : QV’s Coronation earrings):
    :
    :
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : The centre diamond is different. round Q
    : Vic
    : and square in the other QEII pear.
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : Thanks for your insight.
    :
    : In the first, I thought maybe they were QM's
    : collets from the Coronation necklace
    : because they seem to have a border setting -
    : although as Joye mentioned they could be the
    : clusters ????
    :
    : As for the second, it was the glint of gold
    : in the spacer that was throwing me off. But
    : it does look as though the Pear Drops do
    : have a gold backing. I agree with you Joye
    : that I find these very similar to the
    : Coronation Earrings.
    :
    : Even the facet planes look similar.
    : However, the spacers in the Coronation set
    : look a bit larger.
    :
    :
    :
    : Cheers!
    : Bryce
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : 1st picture are Q Mary's cluster earrings.
    : page 48 Fields
    :
    : 2nd picture maybe QEIIs pear drop earrings
    : page 52. I personally have great difficulty
    : in seeing a different between the pear drop
    : and the Q Victoria's collet necklace and
    : earrings Fields page 54.
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : Can anyone help me to identify the earrings
    : in
    : these 2 pictures?
    :
    : Both sets are worn with HM's "best
    : diamonds" (the South African 21st
    : Birthday set)
    :
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : Thanks in advance for your assistance.
    :
    : Cheers!
    : Bryce
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