I also agree that the theory that Rich's conciousness is in the Alexander family, even if it is possible, is a terrible idea. But it wouldn't be beneath Marvel if it justifies their existence.
I really do hope that the AvX Phoenix pointing out that Sam should not even exist is addressed and explained.
Earlier I was only able to see the last preview page but now I have seen the entire preview. It does not make sense about the Revengers, and E-Vell is just standing there in the background. Maybe he is no longer a Cancerverse Lord.
Rich is a seasoned war veteran and I understand that losing an arm like that is traumatic but not necessarily life-threatening. It could be argued that the shock and reality of their current situation is finally setting in but it is very uncharacteristic even for Rich. Like Worldmind has repeatedly told Rich, Nova Corps members are selected because they are "ordinary and average" but possess a great inner sense of duty and morale compass. During Annihilation, Rich ceased being just a Nova Centurion and accepted his role as Nova Centurion Prime and the Commander in Chief for the United Front. He has been through worse. Regular military personnel have trained for this, but special operations operators like the US Navy SEALs, Polish GROM, British SAS, Australian SAS, Canadian SAS, etc train even more for SHTF SNAFU scenarios. For those that train regularly, their training kicks in. It really is a warrrior mentality. If you fall, you get back up and get your gun back into the fight.
No, the Richard Rider that we all know would not have given up so easily, especially knowing he is fighting for family, friends, Earth, and all free planets in the galaxy.
: I think the whole RIch as the ALexander family
: is really a bad idea. I dont see how its
: possible as a fit seeing as how, Jesse does
: seem to have actually been a Nova Corps
: member, and has people that worked with him
: before the kids were born and even before he
: met his wife.
: Its more likely that just Jesse is Rich..he
: simply gets time flung and time displaced
: and has to hide out. I think Thanos does
: steal the Nova force and rich creates the
: helmets as a way to syphon Thanos power. He
: keeps his role as creator of this Black Nova
: force secret and clouded with misdirection.
: Even guys like Titus and Abadox never knew
: Jesse was truly the boss.
: After that it all fits...COsmo called Sam's
: dad the old Nova and a good Nova.
: Jesse is Rich.....it could have worked if we
: didnt have 2 years history of this poorly
: executed series.
: I'm not looking for more teeny bopper
: incrdibles type whimsical family fun when
: you done a story like Thanos Imperative. I
: guess a Johnny QUest format could work...but
: its not really what i want..
: They probably wont even switch Jesse's name
: back to Rich Rider...maybe there was truth
: to that whole joke of a rumor.
: --Previous Message--
: Okay - few points - just for observation.
: Last issue Bendis had it that Drax, Quill
: and Thanos were being resurrected due to the
: nature of the Cancerverse - even though that
: in itself is a contradiction as Death killed
: Lord Mar-vell in TTI and allowed herself
: passage into the collapsing alt-universe
: before giving Thanos the heave-ho (only to
: rekindle her love for the big gallot in
: Starlin's The Infinity revelation).
: Last issue - narrative from Quill said:
: "What if I lose an arm and then I
: die?" Do I keep coming back to life
: hungry and armless? Do I never die but
: suffer to live?" Then of course Rich
: does lose an arm - with the wrong shield
: from Revenger Cap!
: Now if we suppose the nature of the
: Cancerverse (according to Bendis) is that
: Nova dies and is resurrected again (as was
: Drax and Quill and Thanos) - armless or not
: it would be suddenly nonsensical that he's
: on his deathbed due to the nature of the
: pocket-verse's law change just for him alone
: - unless of course that nature is being
: undone by Revenger Cap using the Cosmic Cube
: to gain egress into the 619 via the Fault -
: itself chaotic energies in flux where the
: rules of physics changed a lot - as laid
: down by Dna in their Sphinx arc.
: So okay, Rich is dying and Quill gets Thanos
: to try and save Rich - to save his ass to
: get back into the 616 - only thing is - if
: Rich was then given a new persona/liefe
: wouldn't it be better off with him having a
: life with those he knew rather than
: conveniently turning into Jesse Alexander?
: Of course that would be the kind of thing I
: can see being done to cement the whole
: Alexander Family unit - but if Jesse really
: is Rich - memories of who he was would never
: be lost, just submerged waiting to be
: rekindled. Either way, BMB is making a hash
: of this story due to his reluctance to
: adhere to previous continuity and
: credibility. Sorry, just don't like the arc
: -save for the art!
: Personally - if it has to happen - I'd
: rather have Rich's spirit displaced into a
: future timestream to inhabit a future
: descendant - to hook up with the Guardians
: in 3000 - or some other future pointafter
: all the same concept was used by Ed Brubaker
: for Cap after his assassination. That way it
: would at least leave a way open for him to
: be returned - although didn't I recall that
: Jim Shooter in the 80's proposed his very
: Rich spirit thing/ transfer into a new form
: for a possible alt take on the Korvac Saga -
: that's online at NPP still?
: Either way - Nova fans ain't gonna like the
: outcome so think the torches will be out
: next week!
: --Previous Message--
: After seeing the preview, I have a weird
: feeling that:
: Rich will end up being near death and
: nothing will be able to save him...
: Peter will make a deal with Thanos that they
: will have a truce and work together to get
: home if Thanos will bring the Nova Force
: back to the 616 (betting that Rich's
: consciousness/brain pattern will be
: contained inside it when they return)...
: Thanos agrees and goes one step further. He
: believes Rich was an honorable warrior and
: will even grant Rich his last wish (which we
: saw in the preview)...
: Once they are back in the 616, Thanos uses
: the cosmic cube and the Nova Force to create
: the Alexander family and maybe even the town
: of Carefree. Rich's consciousness/brain
: pattern is split to create the four
: Alexanders with Jesse being Rich's primary
: That would give Rich the kids/family he
: regretted not having and removes Rider as a
: potential future threat to Thanos.
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