I don't think the X Games FMX are boring, I think it's cool. It's like the gymnastics type of competition sort of to me. No, it's not like a show, but it's still cool. When Evel was young and went to Vegas and saw Liberache' - he thought something like "what if I could be Liberache' on a motorcycle." Hence his showmanship began. Now I know he had other influence and his own personal charisma, I'm just making the point.
Anyway there is a difference between competition and charisma in showmanship. The FMX'ers spend all their time building their unique skill set to do these incredible jumps with variations, they arn't into being "show off's" it's not their thing, they'd think it's kind of wacked i get the feeling, lol
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: Sometime the width of the ramp is what the
: place wants. My understanding was CP told
: Robbie he would need at least a 12' ramp.
: The problem is this new competition is as
: boring as the old jump offs became . The
: show was built on CAN HE DO THE IMPOSSIBLE
: AND JUMP 17 CARS!!!! ??? Not heres the next
: jumper and the next and the next doing it 10
: times apiece . VK was not EK'S ramps .
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: Guys Seriously, the sport is progressing as
: it
: would and should. How cool would any sport
: be if records stayed the same for 40 years?
: To say that a 30 car jump is less dangerous
: than a 15 car jump doesn't make sense. They
: may not have Evel's flair, but who does,
: really? That's why Evel (the performer) was
: so cool and why we loved him. The whole X
: Games thing isn't about showmanship but more
: for a competition perspective. I think it's
: good to have different categories for
: landing areas, sure, but it's different
: disciplines and should be respected. Nobody
: would try a 300 foot jump and land on the
: old style landing ramp (Evel's landing ramp
: was 7 feet wide for his standard
: performances, so they could be loaded in the
: trailer, I personally measured them). Even
: Evel used huge landing ramps nearing the end
: of his career. Look at the landing ramp
: used in Viva Knievel, Wembly or Kings
: Island. The deal is the length of the jump
: and to land safely. Lets learn from our
: predecessors failings (Butch Laswell). To
: do cool long jumps and land safely is the
: goal. It's irresponsible to use inferior
: equipment in the stunt business (as in any
: other profession), including ridiculously
: thin landing areas.
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: I'm old school but superman fell off a horse
: at "slow" speed and eventually
: died of that injury. But ken is right, these
: new jumpers are boring with Ramp to ramp or
: ramp to dirt jumps. Maddo's on the building
: - off the building stunt was super cool. RK
: uses a curved ramp, not sure what category
: to put him in.
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: YES any fool could jump ramp to ramp. There
: I said it. The secrets out. And to prove it,
: look at the jumpers of today, with all the
: modern equipment. And even with this
: equipment their shows are boring. No
: showmanship. No danger. You know that but
: you won't admit it. I am in more danger
: jumping 15 cars then Maddison is jumping 30
: cars. It's the way things have progressed. I
: won't comment on this subject anymore. I'll
: let the fans decide what is more dangerous,
: today's ramp to dirt so called jumpers or
: the wooden ramp to ramp, or ramp to ground
: jumpers of the early 70's.
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