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    Re: Various Royals with Jewels Archived Message

    Posted by SarahN on February 23, 2012, 10:17 pm, in reply to "Re: Various Royals with Jewels"

    I remember something about this from Hannah Pakula's wonderful biography. IIRC the Soviets offered to give them back IF Romania gave back some territory they had gained, Missy refused.

    --Previous Message--
    : Dawn I'm not 100% sure of all the details of
    : Missy's losses, but I'm sure other posters
    : here may have more knowledge. I don't think
    : they were stolen by thieves though, I think
    : it was they were never allowed to be
    : retrieved due to the hostile government. I
    : think with the formation of Greater Romania
    : after WWI, Ferdinand was probably happy to
    : shower her with jewels considering her
    : dedication to the country during the war and
    : her efforts at the negotations in
    : Versailles.
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : That is too bad! I know the Soviet Union
    : sold a lot of Russian royal jewels but I
    : guess it still keeps some other royal
    : jewels...especially the crown and so forth.
    :
    : Do you mean Queen Marie's jewels (among some
    : other Russian royal jewels that were once
    : for safekeeping) really were lost and would
    : be hopefully discovered one of these days
    : somewhere in Russia or do you mean they were
    : lost through the status of being totally
    : destroyed by the Soviet Union in various
    : methods such as melting, breaking down,
    : whatever? Or were they totally being lost
    : somewhere and no one knew where they were
    : among the confusion of the Russian
    : Revolution of 1917? To which royal family
    : member in Russia did Queen Marie originally
    : leave her jewels with for safekeeping or to
    : a specific institution did she leave her
    : jewels?
    :
    : Sorry to pepper you with so many questions!
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : I believe Missy lost all her best jewels
    : during the war, they were in Russia for
    : safekeeping and lost thereafter.
    : The king let her buy new ones, I think she
    : acquired some imperial pieces from exiles
    : and those eventually went to Ileana and
    : Mignon.
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : Source: all from the Library of Congress
    : collection.
    :
    : Comments are welcome about any of these
    : pictures which are posted here.
    :
    : Left: (from 'The Times Dispatch' [Richmond,
    : VA], dated Oct. 9, 1904) PRINCESS BEATRICE
    : (Princess Henry of Battenberg).
    : Right: (from 'The New York Tribune' [NYC,
    : NY], dated Jan. 28, 1906) Then-PRINCESS
    : VICTORIA EUGENIE OF BATTENBERG (later Queen
    : of Spain)
    :
    : Both mother and daughter appeared to have
    : the same necklace, so if that is so,
    : Victoria Ena inherited that from her mother.
    : Does the Spanish royal family still have
    : that one today?
    :
    :
    : Already identified here. (from 'The Saint
    : Paul Globe' [St. Paul, MN], dated Sept. 27,
    : 1903).
    :
    :
    : QUEEN ALEXANDRINE OF DENMARK
    : (from 'The Sun' [NYC, NY], dated May 16,
    : 1912)
    : Which member of the Danish royal family or
    : someone else entirely has that choker which
    : the queen in photo wore?
    :
    :
    : Was this PRINCESS DAGMAR (as according to
    : the caption above the picture, the one who
    : wed Lieut. Castenskjold) the daughter of the
    : above? The Danish queen and this lady below
    : looked a lot alike to be mother and
    : daughter.
    : [from 'The Evening World' (NYC, NY), dated
    : Nov. 23, 1922]
    :
    :
    : (from 'The Washington Herald' [D.C., dated
    : Aug. 17, 1913]) PRINCESS PATRICIA OF
    : CONNAUGHT..
    :
    : That nice tiara and necklaces probably were
    : passed down into Patricia's family and owned
    : by that family today, I suppose.
    :
    :
    : This lovely tiara (similar to the one once
    : owned by Grand Duchess Vladimir of Russia
    : and now owned by the British Queen except
    : for the pearls or emeralds) was worn by
    : ROMANIA'S QUEEN MARIE (formerly Princess of
    : Edinburgh). This is from 'The Washington
    : Times' (D.C.), dated June 22, 1918. What
    : happened to this tiara?
    :
    :
    : Once again, it's QUEEN MARIE OF ROMANIA but
    : this time with a different tiara. Also, what
    : had happened to this tiara? It's from 'The
    : North Platte Semi-Weekly Tribune' (North
    : Platte, NE), dated Feb. 12, 1915.
    :
    :
    : The well-known tiara worn by GRAND DUCHESS
    : VLADIMIR OF RUSSIA (along with a pretty pair
    : of earrings and necklaces and choker and a
    : brooch....who owns these pieces of jewels
    : now?) is from 'The Saint Paul Globe' (St.
    : Paul, MN), dated April 17, 1904. The tiara
    : is of course in the possession of the
    : British royal family now. Also, the Grand
    : Duchess had on at least two or three
    : bracelets but they were out of the picture.
    :
    :
    : Britain's QUEEN MARY is shown here in 'The
    : National Tribune' (D.C.), dated June 23,
    : 1910. This is a wonderful picture showing
    : her profile.
    :
    :
    : Left: QUEEN OLGA OF THE HELLENES (from 'El
    : Paso Herald' [El Paso, TX], dated March 18,
    : 1913).
    : Right: QUEEN SOPHIA OF THE HELLENES (from
    : 'The Day Book' [Chicago, IL], dated March
    : 19, 1913).
    :
    : Both Greek queens seemed to have the same
    : choker. What do you think? Sophia's tiara
    : could be consisted of aquamarines, could it?
    : Olga seemed to have some type of small tiara
    : in her hair. Does anyone own these pieces of
    : jewelry today?
    :
    : Interesting that this photo (from the
    : Library of Congress collection also)
    : identifed her as Queen Olga rather than
    : Queen Sophia, but the newspaper picture on
    : the right side immediately above identifed
    : her as Sophia. Which one is correct?
    :
    :
    : The tiara worn by DOWAGER QUEEN OLGA OF THE
    : HELLENES obviously belongs to Queen Anne
    : Marie now. Is this choker in any way the
    : same as the one worn by those ladies
    : immediately above or is it a different
    : choker?
    :
    :
    : Interesting portrait of DENMARK'S QUEEN
    : SOPHIA MAGDALENA is from 'The Salt Lake
    : Tribune' (SLC, UT), dated July 2, 1911.
    :
    :
    : THE GRAND DUCHESS ERNEST OF HESSE &
    : DARMSTADT wore those various jewels in the
    : picture from "The Washington
    : Herald" (D.C.), dated Nov. 4, 1906.
    : Does anyone own this big tiara?
    :
    :
    : AND LASTLY, this picture of THE DUCHESS OF
    : GUISE is from 'The Washington Herald'
    : (D.C.), dated Nov. 4, 1906.
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