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    Re: From the Library of Congress Collection........ Archived Message

    Posted by Franck on September 9, 2012, 4:19 pm, in reply to "From the Library of Congress Collection........"

    Dear Dawn,

    Thank you for these information.

    Just a question what is the open-petalled rose in pearls and diamonds from the Duke of York. Is it a an hair ornament ?

    Could it be the aigrette with pear-shaped pearls and diamonds in the form of a bouquet of forget-me knots on Ursula's site ?

    It would be interesting to know its origin.

    Franck



    --Previous Message--
    : First of all, I was not able to find more
    : information through the Library of Congress
    : newspaper collection about the Ladies of
    : England and County of Surrey
    : necklace/tiaras.
    :
    : However, I found some other related
    : information.
    :
    : Firstly, about the then-Duchess of York's
    : wedding gifts, here's the information:
    :
    : [source: "The Evening World" (NYC,
    : NY) dated July 6, 1893]
    :
    : ***from the Duke of York, the bride received
    : a open-petalled rose in pearls and diamonds
    : as well as a five-row pearl necklace to
    : match.
    :
    : ***from the Duke and Duchess of Teck, the
    : bride got a tiara, a necklet and a brooch of
    : turquoises and diamonds.
    :
    : ***from the Princess of Wales (later Queen
    : Alexandra), the bride received jewelry and
    : precious stones worth $1,250,000 (in that
    : year's value....not today's). Unfortunately,
    : the newspaper did not specifically identify
    : any jewel item from this gift.
    :
    : Secondly, from this source 'The Anaconda
    : Standard' [Anaconda, Montana] dated July
    : 9th, 1893, the bride received from the city
    : of London these two items:
    :
    : ***a diamond bracelet worth 900 pounds
    : (English money) and a silver dinner service
    : worth 1,600 pounds (English money).
    :
    :
    : *************************************************
    :
    : Now with a focus on guests who attended the
    : Devonshire House Ball on July 2nd, 1897
    : (from this source of "New York
    : Tribune" [NYC] dated July 3rd, 1897):
    :
    :
    : **The Duke of Devonshire (host)
    : **The Duchess of Devonshire (hostess)
    :
    : **The Prince of Wales (later King Edward
    : VII)
    : **The Princess of Wales (later Queen
    : Alexandra)
    : **The Duke of York (later King George V)
    : **The Duchess of York (later Queen Mary)
    : **The Duke of Connaught
    : **The Duchess of Connaught
    : **Prince Charles of Denmark
    : **Prince Christian (of Schleswig-Holstein, I
    : assume)
    : **Princess Victoria of Schleswig-Holstein
    : **Colonel Hay (U.S. Ambassador to Great
    : Britain)
    : **Mrs. Hay
    : **Lord Roseberry
    : **Arthur Balfour
    : **Mr. Asquith
    : **Sir Horace Farquhar
    : **The Countess of Warwick (as a lady of the
    : Marie Antionette period)
    : **Lady Tweedmouth (in an Elizabethan
    : costume)
    : **The Duke of Marlborough
    : **The Duchess of Marlborough (dressed in
    : white with emeralds and diamonds in the
    : period of Louis XV)
    : **The Duchess of Portland (clothed in the
    : period of Louis XIII)
    : **Lady William Beresford
    : **Mrs. George Curzon
    : **Mrs. Ogden Goelet (in white with diamond
    : crescent and diamond stars)
    : **Lord Charles Montague
    : **Lord Crewe
    : **Lord Stanley
    : **Lady Mar
    : **Lady St. Osborne
    : **Lady de Grey
    : **The Marquess San Vito
    : **Lord Latham
    : **The Marquise Hautpoul
    : **Lady Cynthia Graham
    : **Mrs. Rothschild
    : **Comte de Mensdorf
    : **The Earl of Durham (dressed as King Philip
    : of Spain)
    :
    : Absent from this party were:
    :
    : **Families of Lord Chesham and the Duke of
    : Westminster because of the accidental (with
    : a pony) death of 9-year-old daughter of Lord
    : Chesham.
    :
    : Note: if anyone is curious about Lord
    : Chesham's daughter's death, see this link
    : further down under Lord Chesham's
    : name.....he himself also died in the riding
    : accident in 1907:
    : http://www.leighrayment.com/peers/peersC3.htm
    :
    :
    : The Prince of Wales (later Edward VII) was
    : dressed as Knight Hospitaller of Malta in
    : black velvet with Maltese Crosses in white
    : satin on his cloak and a satin brocade
    : doublet. Velvet trunks slashed with black
    : satin and high crowned hat with a large
    : Maltese cross in diamonds in front and white
    : ostrich plumes at the back. Around the hat
    : was a silver chain. He also wore high boots
    : which matched his costume.
    :
    :
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : Boffer,
    :
    : Thank you for these details. I will look up
    : in the Library of Congress newspaper
    : collection to see if there was any mention
    : of either wedding gift the future Queen Mary
    : got in 1893. I am curious if it could come
    : up with details regarding the Devonshire
    : House Ball.
    :
    : So Queen Mary was the only person in the
    : Royal Family to have used both
    : necklace/tiaras, then, and that those items
    : were completely dismantled long before the
    : end of reign of her husband.
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : Both 'Queen Mary's Ladies of England
    : Necklace/Tiara' and 'Queen Mary's County of
    : Surrey Necklace/Tiara' have been dismantled.
    :
    : Here are highly detailed and referenced
    : notes in regards to each of these pieces.
    :
    : Queen Mary’s Ladies of England
    : Necklace/Tiara
    :
    : This jewel was a wedding gift to Queen
    : Mary in 1893 from “650 Ladies of
    : England”,[1] and was made in Hunt and
    : Roskell.[2] It was described in The Times,
    : as a “pearl and diamond ornament … made up
    : of scrolls wrought in diamonds over
    : fleur-de-lis in larger stones. From each
    : group hangs a drop-pearl, that falling from
    : the centre cluster being fully an inch in
    : length”.[3] It was exhibited at the
    : Imperial Institute among some of her other
    : wedding gifts, as photographed in The
    : Graphic.[4] It was presented to Queen Mary
    : on 24 June 1893, at 19, Ennismore Gardens by
    : “the Ladies’ Committee”.[5]
    :
    : It was designed to be worn both as a
    : tiara,[6] as a necklace,[7] and as a
    : bandeau to trim the corsage of a gown, as it
    : was worn to the Devonshire House Ball in
    : 1897;[8] and it could also be detached “so
    : as to be converted into several smaller
    : ornaments”.[9] It was featured in Volume I
    : of Queen Mary’s Photographic jewellery
    : inventory,[10] and Queen Mary also kept a
    : record of all the 650 ladies who had
    : subscribed to the gift in a special
    : presentation volume.[11]
    :
    : Queen Mary wrote to Lady Elizabeth
    : Biddulph in June 1893, asking her to “accept
    : and convey to the ladies of England my
    : grateful thanks for the very beautiful
    : necklace”.[12] She also wrote a letter to
    : Lady Eva Greville in July of that year, in
    : which she described the tiara as one of her
    : “most valued wedding gifts as a precious
    : proof of your good will and affection”.[13]
    :
    : However, by 1913 the decision was taken
    : to dismantle this tiara. “12 pearl drops”
    : from this tiara,[14] and the majority of
    : the diamonds were used to create ‘Queen
    : Mary’s Lover’s Knot Tiara’.[15] With the
    : remaining “33 brilliants and 3 rose
    : diamonds” being used to create ‘Queen Mary’s
    : Greek Tiara’.[16]
    :
    : NOTES
    : 1. Bow Bells, 7 July 1893, p. 32
    : 2. Hugh Roberts, The Queen’s Diamonds,
    : (London: Royal Collection Publications,
    : 2012), p. 182
    : 3. The Times, 24 June 1893, p. 14
    : 4. The Graphic, 15 July 1893, p. 88
    : 5. The Times, 28 June 1893, p. 10
    : 6. Suzy Menkes, The Royal Jewels, (London:
    : Grafton Books, 1985), p. 65; James
    : Pope-Hennessy, Queen Mary, (London: George
    : Allen and Unwin Ltd., 1959), pl. 21
    : 7. Roberts, The Queen’s Diamonds, p. 146
    : (RCIN 2808111)
    : 8. Roberts, The Queen’s Diamonds, p. 138
    : (RCIN 4926140)
    : 9. The Times, 24 June 1893, p. 14
    : 10. Roberts, The Queen’s Diamonds, p. 113;
    : RA QM/PRIV/CC93, pl. 1, no. 6
    : 11. Roberts, The Queen’s Diamonds, p. 182;
    : RA QM/PRIV/CC64
    : 12. The Times, 28 June 1893, p. 10
    : 13. The Times, 10 July 1893, p. 6
    : 14. Roberts, The Queen’s Diamonds, p. 182
    : 15. Roberts, The Queen’s Diamonds, p. 182;
    : GA Garrard RL3, fol. 94, 23 January 1914
    : 16. Roberts, The Queen’s Diamonds, p. 164;
    : GA Garrard RL3, fol. 95, 21 April 1914
    :
    :
    : Queen Mary's County of Surrey
    : Necklace/Tiara
    :
    : This tiara was a wedding-gift to Queen
    : Mary in 1893 from the County of Surrey, and
    : was presented to her by the Earl of
    : Lovelace, in his capacity as Lord-Lieutenant
    : of the county. It was described in The Times
    : as being a tiara “composed entirely of
    : brilliants of large size and … convertible
    : at will into a necklace”.[1]
    :
    : It was illustrated among her wedding
    : gifts in the Illustrated London News,[2]
    : and was exhibited at the Imperial Institute
    : among the three tiaras that featured in the
    : exhibition of the wedding-gifts TRHs had
    : received; a photograph from this exhibition
    : featured in The Graphic.[3] This tiara also
    : features in Queen Mary’s photographic
    : jewellery inventory.[4]
    :
    : This piece was photographed being worn as
    : a necklace, along with ‘Queen Mary’s
    : Boucheron Loop Tiara’,[5] by W & D
    : Downey, to mark the visit of the then Prince
    : and Princess of Wales to India between 1905
    : and 1906.[6] It was also photographed being
    : worn as a tiara by Queen Mary with ‘Queen
    : Mary’s Kapurthala Stomacher’.[7]
    :
    : It was dismantled in 1913, with the
    : biggest “13 large brilliants” being used
    : “furnish tops to [Queen Mary's] Girls of
    : Great Britain [and Ireland] Tiara in place
    : of pearls”, for the cost of £34.[8]
    :
    : The rest of the stones were used to
    : create a new “Greek honeysuckle pattern
    : Tiara”, ‘Queen Mary’s Greek Tiara’.[9]
    :
    : NOTES
    :
    : 1. The Times, 23 June 1893, p. 10
    : 2. Illustrated London News, 6 July 1893
    : 3. The Graphic, 15 July 1893, p. 88
    : 4. Roberts, The Queen’s Diamonds, p. 139;
    : RA QM/PRIV/CC93, pl. 5a, no. 1.
    : 5. Roberts, The Queen’s Diamonds, p. 156
    : (RCIN 2808148); Geoffrey Munn, Tiaras: A
    : History of Splendor, (Woodbridge: Antique
    : Collectors’ Club, 2001), pl. 109.
    : 6. Munn, Tiaras, pl. 110
    : 7. Roberts, The Queen’s Diamonds, p. 194
    : (Note: This picture shows the tiara being
    : worn in the base of the ‘Girls and Great
    : Britain Tiara’).
    : 8. Roberts, The Queen’s Diamonds, p. 136,
    : GA Garrard RL3, fol. 95, 21 April 1914;
    : 9. RA JEWEL/GARRARD/QM, fol. 80, no. 2.
    : 10. Roberts, The Queen’s Diamonds, p. 164;
    : GA Garrard RL3, fol. 95, 21 April 1914
    :
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : Thank you, Nellie! And those two
    : tiara/necklaces aren't here anymore, is that
    : correct? If so, did that happen before the
    : end of reign of King George V or the end of
    : reign of his son King George VI? Please
    : refresh my memory about that.
    :
    : It would be nice to see these two
    : tiara/necklaces in pictures in color
    : (instead of black and white).
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    :
    : In your first pic I believe that would be
    : the Ladies of England tiara/necklace.
    : In your last, the Surrey tiara/necklace.
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