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    Re: ID request.... Archived Message

    Posted by Dawn on April 23, 2013, 8:56 pm, in reply to "Re: ID request...."

    That postcard portrait was the same one as hung on the wall at the James Monroe estate. So what you see in the postcard is what I saw in the larger portrait on the wall there, so Queen Hortense was wearing this pearl tiara and pearl necklace with its pearl pendants and a pair of pearl earrings. It was two years ago so I cannot exactly recall what type of frame the portrait was in that was hung on the wall. I also recalled seeing the portraits of the Queen's brother and headmistress on the wall as well.

    Source: my book titled "James Monroe: An Illustrated History" by Daniel Preston (pub. in 2008).

    According to the caption next to this photo (see below), Queen Hortense (probably as Hortense de Beauharnais at the time) gave as either a wedding gift or the christening gift to her friend Eliza Monroe this jewel case (which I had seen in a display case at the presidential home).
     photo ElizaMonroejewel_zpsce87c35f.jpg




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    : Wow how interesting...would you describe what
    : type of portrait it was? what jewels she
    : wore? is it something that we haven't seen
    : before or its one of the portraits that we
    : see when we google?
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    : --Previous Message--
    : Yes, the ladies looked similar in both,
    : don't
    : they? Well, at first glance, these look like
    : turquoises but I will take your word that
    : these are emeralds instead (in the left
    : portrait in your most recent post), Tamara.
    : There's a definite difference in how
    : turquoises and emeralds look like so I am
    : sure you are right in saying they are
    : emeralds.
    :
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    : By the way, in my earlier post, I should
    : have said "the christening of Hortensia
    : Hay" rather than Hortensia Monroe.
    : Hortensia was a daughter of Mrs. Eliza
    : (Monroe) Hay (daughter of President Monroe)
    : and Eliza obviously named her daughter after
    : her childhood friend, who later became Queen
    : Hortense of Holland.
    :
    : When I visited President Monroe's home about
    : two years ago, I was really surprised to see
    : the portrait of the Queen of Holland being
    : hung at that home. I did not totally expect
    : to see anything royal-related there! But it
    : was a very pleasant surprise to see it
    : there. It's quite a large portrait, too!
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    : --Previous Message--
    : Thank you Dawn for this information....
    : I am quite certain that the jewels in my
    : portrait are emeralds..at least I see it
    : clearly on my screen...they reminded me
    : emeralds of Queen Josephine of Sweden
    :
    : and now that I see side by side of your
    : postcard and my picture, the facial
    : similarities are uncanny
    :
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    : --Previous Message--
    : Source: my own postcard of Queen Hortense of
    : Holland which I bought from a gift shop at
    : the James Monroe estate.
    :
    : This portrait (by Francois Pascal Simon
    : Gerard) is hung at the home of President
    : James Monroe (the Ash Lawn-Highland estate
    : in Virginia). According to the caption on
    : the back side of the post card, Queen
    : Hortense gave three different portraits of
    : herself, her brother Eugene and Madame
    : Campan to the Monroe family after the
    : christening of Hortensia Monroe. Madame
    : Campan was once a headmistress of a school
    : to which both Hortense de Beauharnais and
    : Eliza Monroe attended.
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    : The way the lady in the portrait in your
    : post looks similar to this lady here in the
    : post card. Although, the Queen here wore
    : pearl pieces rather than turquoises.
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    : --Previous Message--
    : Can anyone identify who she is?
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    : I have an idea (I think) but won't post it
    : until I see what other suggestions you might
    : have
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