Posted by Tamara on April 23, 2013, 9:15 pm, in reply to "Re: ID request...."
Wow thanks again Dawn...I have never seen this picture you posted..and quite interesting amethyst set for the christening..I wonder why some stones are missing from the case? Nevertheless, I am always thrilled when one topic pulls pieces of puzzle from history
thank you everyone for your quick comments
--Previous Message-- : That postcard portrait was the same one as : hung on the wall at the James Monroe estate. : So what you see in the postcard is what I : saw in the larger portrait on the wall : there, so Queen Hortense was wearing this : pearl tiara and pearl necklace with its : pearl pendants and a pair of pearl earrings. : It was two years ago so I cannot exactly : recall what type of frame the portrait was : in that was hung on the wall. I also : recalled seeing the portraits of the Queen's : brother and headmistress on the wall as : well. : : Source: my book titled "James Monroe: : An Illustrated History" by Daniel : Preston (pub. in 2008). : : According to the caption next to this photo : (see below), Queen Hortense (probably as : Hortense de Beauharnais at the time) gave as : either a wedding gift or the christening : gift to her friend Eliza Monroe this jewel : case (which I had seen in a display case at : the presidential home). : : : : : : --Previous Message-- : Wow how interesting...would you describe : what : type of portrait it was? what jewels she : wore? is it something that we haven't seen : before or its one of the portraits that we : see when we google? : : : : : --Previous Message-- : Yes, the ladies looked similar in both, : don't : they? Well, at first glance, these look like : turquoises but I will take your word that : these are emeralds instead (in the left : portrait in your most recent post), Tamara. : There's a definite difference in how : turquoises and emeralds look like so I am : sure you are right in saying they are : emeralds. : : : By the way, in my earlier post, I should : have said "the christening of Hortensia : Hay" rather than Hortensia Monroe. : Hortensia was a daughter of Mrs. Eliza : (Monroe) Hay (daughter of President Monroe) : and Eliza obviously named her daughter after : her childhood friend, who later became Queen : Hortense of Holland. : : When I visited President Monroe's home about : two years ago, I was really surprised to see : the portrait of the Queen of Holland being : hung at that home. I did not totally expect : to see anything royal-related there! But it : was a very pleasant surprise to see it : there. It's quite a large portrait, too! : : --Previous Message-- : Thank you Dawn for this information.... : I am quite certain that the jewels in my : portrait are emeralds..at least I see it : clearly on my screen...they reminded me : emeralds of Queen Josephine of Sweden : : and now that I see side by side of your : postcard and my picture, the facial : similarities are uncanny : : : --Previous Message-- : Source: my own postcard of Queen Hortense of : Holland which I bought from a gift shop at : the James Monroe estate. : : This portrait (by Francois Pascal Simon : Gerard) is hung at the home of President : James Monroe (the Ash Lawn-Highland estate : in Virginia). According to the caption on : the back side of the post card, Queen : Hortense gave three different portraits of : herself, her brother Eugene and Madame : Campan to the Monroe family after the : christening of Hortensia Monroe. Madame : Campan was once a headmistress of a school : to which both Hortense de Beauharnais and : Eliza Monroe attended. : : The way the lady in the portrait in your : post looks similar to this lady here in the : post card. Although, the Queen here wore : pearl pieces rather than turquoises. : : : : --Previous Message-- : Can anyone identify who she is? : : I have an idea (I think) but won't post it : until I see what other suggestions you might : have : : : : : : : : : : : : : :