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    Re: ID request.... Archived Message

    Posted by Tamara on April 23, 2013, 9:15 pm, in reply to "Re: ID request...."

    Wow thanks again Dawn...I have never seen this picture you posted..and quite interesting amethyst set for the christening..I wonder why some stones are missing from the case? Nevertheless, I am always thrilled when one topic pulls pieces of puzzle from history

    thank you everyone for your quick comments



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    : That postcard portrait was the same one as
    : hung on the wall at the James Monroe estate.
    : So what you see in the postcard is what I
    : saw in the larger portrait on the wall
    : there, so Queen Hortense was wearing this
    : pearl tiara and pearl necklace with its
    : pearl pendants and a pair of pearl earrings.
    : It was two years ago so I cannot exactly
    : recall what type of frame the portrait was
    : in that was hung on the wall. I also
    : recalled seeing the portraits of the Queen's
    : brother and headmistress on the wall as
    : well.
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    : Source: my book titled "James Monroe:
    : An Illustrated History" by Daniel
    : Preston (pub. in 2008).
    :
    : According to the caption next to this photo
    : (see below), Queen Hortense (probably as
    : Hortense de Beauharnais at the time) gave as
    : either a wedding gift or the christening
    : gift to her friend Eliza Monroe this jewel
    : case (which I had seen in a display case at
    : the presidential home).
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    : --Previous Message--
    : Wow how interesting...would you describe
    : what
    : type of portrait it was? what jewels she
    : wore? is it something that we haven't seen
    : before or its one of the portraits that we
    : see when we google?
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    : --Previous Message--
    : Yes, the ladies looked similar in both,
    : don't
    : they? Well, at first glance, these look like
    : turquoises but I will take your word that
    : these are emeralds instead (in the left
    : portrait in your most recent post), Tamara.
    : There's a definite difference in how
    : turquoises and emeralds look like so I am
    : sure you are right in saying they are
    : emeralds.
    :
    :
    : By the way, in my earlier post, I should
    : have said "the christening of Hortensia
    : Hay" rather than Hortensia Monroe.
    : Hortensia was a daughter of Mrs. Eliza
    : (Monroe) Hay (daughter of President Monroe)
    : and Eliza obviously named her daughter after
    : her childhood friend, who later became Queen
    : Hortense of Holland.
    :
    : When I visited President Monroe's home about
    : two years ago, I was really surprised to see
    : the portrait of the Queen of Holland being
    : hung at that home. I did not totally expect
    : to see anything royal-related there! But it
    : was a very pleasant surprise to see it
    : there. It's quite a large portrait, too!
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    : --Previous Message--
    : Thank you Dawn for this information....
    : I am quite certain that the jewels in my
    : portrait are emeralds..at least I see it
    : clearly on my screen...they reminded me
    : emeralds of Queen Josephine of Sweden
    :
    : and now that I see side by side of your
    : postcard and my picture, the facial
    : similarities are uncanny
    :
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    : --Previous Message--
    : Source: my own postcard of Queen Hortense of
    : Holland which I bought from a gift shop at
    : the James Monroe estate.
    :
    : This portrait (by Francois Pascal Simon
    : Gerard) is hung at the home of President
    : James Monroe (the Ash Lawn-Highland estate
    : in Virginia). According to the caption on
    : the back side of the post card, Queen
    : Hortense gave three different portraits of
    : herself, her brother Eugene and Madame
    : Campan to the Monroe family after the
    : christening of Hortensia Monroe. Madame
    : Campan was once a headmistress of a school
    : to which both Hortense de Beauharnais and
    : Eliza Monroe attended.
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    : The way the lady in the portrait in your
    : post looks similar to this lady here in the
    : post card. Although, the Queen here wore
    : pearl pieces rather than turquoises.
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    : --Previous Message--
    : Can anyone identify who she is?
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    : I have an idea (I think) but won't post it
    : until I see what other suggestions you might
    : have
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