Re: Wonderful Re: Queen Mary and rubies - collar Archived Message
Posted by Beth1 on June 19, 2014, 1:42 am, in reply to "Re: Wonderful Re: Queen Mary and rubies - collar"
Karenl, there seems to be some dispute about who gave QM the bracelet. On the Royal Magazin site it is argued that it was a gift from the County of Cornwall and that the gift from the Duke of York was another piece which QM converted into a bracelet. See http://www.royal-magazin.de/england/queen-mary-ruby-bracelet.htm And http://www.royal-magazin.de/england/diamond-rose-brooch-queen-mary.htm --Previous Message-- : : Looking at your photo Alyend, I noticed : that Queen Mary is wearing the Rose of York : bracelet which was a present from her : husband when he was Duke of York. The : bracelet is made up of diamonds and rubies : so the collar may be rubies. The photo may : be of Mary when she was Duchess of York as : she is much younger. : --Previous Message-- : You're right, she received them later. Queen : Mary received the larger ruby earrings now : property of the Crown as a 59th birthday : present from her husband. In the picture I : posted she's much younger. : : --Previous Message-- : What an interesting photo Alyend. Thank you : for posting it. I have never previously seen : some of the jewellery HM is wearing. : Before I start asking questions, I'll wait : to see if other posters can identify some of : the items. : I agree with you that the dark stones are : most likely rubies and the dark gems in the : aigrette are black pearls. : I also noted that the earrings HM is wearing : are much smaller than the crown ruby : earrings. I think that the King gave her the : latter at a much later date. : : --Previous Message-- : About the ruby dog collar, could it be the : one : in this picture? Considering she's wearing : the County of Cornwall bracelet, the : coloured stones in the dog collar could be : rubies: : : : : : http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/af/0c/c3/af0cc37d9af6979a92976731f73ae568.jpg : I've found this photo just now, and I think : I've never seen the aigrette/tiara too. : Considering the shape of the darker stones : in it, I think they could be black pearls. : : --Previous Message-- : Thank you Nellie. I have never seen HM : photographed wearing such a diamond and ruby : item. It makes me wonder just how many : jewels she had which are unknown to us. : --Previous Message-- : : Just rereading this for the use of the word : collar. : I think collar refers to what we know as a : dog collar. : See the entry for dinner at the Foreign : Office. Brings this pic to mind - : : : : : --Previous Message-- : : I have just started to browse through the : book Treasures from the Royal Archives : which arrived in the post today. : : From Queen Mary's dress book, 1911-13 it : states, for Dinner on June 22nd - : : "Pink & silver brocade gown Diamond : comb ruby & diamond collar, large uncut : ruby necklace arranged on bodice with : diamond drop added." : : This might surprise some who believe that : Queen Mary did not like rubies. : : I wonder what that large uncut ruby was. : : For Dinner on the 23rd at the Foreign Office : - : : "Sapphire blue & gold gown Young : ladies pearl & diamond tiara, pearl : collar with Ladies pearl & diamond : necklace under, pearl & diamond : stomacher large round pearl brooch 3 family : orders" : : I think "Young ladies" must mean : Girls, and we now know Queen Mary herself : used the term "stomacher. : : I feel a bit disappointed with the book : because it is such a teaser, providing the : tiniest snippets, as above. Perhaps no more : than that was ever likely, but one wonders : how and why the selections were made. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :
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Message Thread:
- Queen Mary and rubies - Nellie June 17, 2014, 4:08 am
- Queen Maud tiara - Nellie June 17, 2014, 4:23 am
- Re: Queen Mary and rubies - Beth1 June 17, 2014, 5:32 am
- Re: Queen Mary and rubies - Count75 June 17, 2014, 2:41 pm
- Re: Queen Mary and rubies - Laurence June 17, 2014, 3:46 pm
- Re: Queen Mary and rubies - collar - Nellie June 17, 2014, 7:31 pm
- Re: Queen Mary and rubies - Nellie June 24, 2014, 9:47 am
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