Re: Off topic: the Delhi Durbar Emerald Stomacher Archived Message
Posted by Nellie on July 17, 2014, 3:26 am, in reply to "Re: Off topic: the Delhi Durbar Emerald Stomacher"
You describe the changes thoroughly but I cannot agree that upright emeralds could be added without the tiara looking even more like that of the winner of a beauty pageant. --Previous Message-- : The alterations made at some time between 1947 : (when worn in South Africa in its original : form) and 2001 (when photographed in its : altered form by Munn for his book Tiaras, A : History of Splendor ) mainly consisted in : two changes: : 1) the base of the circlet was narrowed, : making it probably easier to wear : 2) the top line of diamonds was removed : (probably a necessary consequence of the 1), : to enable to open up the top of the tiara as : a result of narrowing the base. : In my view, these alterations have improved : the beauty of the tiara (which looked too : cylindrical and fence-like in it original : form, IMHO). : : But even in the tiara's original form, the : Cambridge emerald drops could be mounted : between the top of the "lyre" : elements - i.e. at the only points the top : line of diamonds (the one which was later : removed) was interrupted. And Hugh Roberts, : in The Queen's Diamonds , explains that the : emeralds were made removable from 1922 (they : were initially permanently fixed) to be used : alternately on the Durbar tiara and the : Vladimir tiara (which Queen Mary had by then : just acquired). Therefore, I am not sure the : points where the emeralds were mounted have : been concerned by the alterations. So the : emerald drops could possibly still be : mounted on the Durbar tiara, if wanted. : : The tiara in its original form: : : : : And in its altered form: : : : : : : Here is a link to an HP pic of the Durbar : Tiara (in its altered form, without the : emerald drops): : : http://www.macleans.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/05_250528-p179-delhi-durbar-tiara-011.jpg : : : --Previous Message-- : : The tiara has also been so altered that it : would not support the emeralds very well. : I would like to see tiara restored. : : : --Previous Message-- : That's what I had in mind: a formal portrait : of the Queen, rather than a "live" : appearance during a gala ceremony (wearing a : full stomacher in such a circumstance could : indeed be over the top for today's jewellery : standards... even for the Queen!). : : I had also thought of the Thistle robes, as : the green of the jewels would match : perfectly with the green velvet of the : robes. But as the Queen has recently (last : year) made a portrait with the Thistle : robes, I think it will be a few years before : she has another one made. : : : : And yes, the Delhi Durbar Emerald Necklace : would be a better match with the Delhi : Durbar Emerald Stomacher (as they were made : for the same occasion and are made of the : same oval Cambridge cabochon emeralds) than : the Greville Emerald necklace (which is : probably made of faceted rectangular : emeralds). But I would be glad of any : opportunity to see the Greville necklace! : : Am I right that the only emerald tiara the : Queen has at her disposal is the Vladimir : Tiara (when worn with the Cambridge emerald : drops)? : (there could also be the Delhi Durbar tiara, : if surmounted by the Cambridge emerald : drops, but this tiara has been loaned by the : Queen to the Duchess of Cornwall). : : : --Previous Message-- : : My suggestion is for someone to commission : another portrait for the Thistle with the : Queen wearing the complete emerald stomacher : - and the Durbar necklaces please. : : : : : : : : :
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