Re: Empress Maria Feodorovna's Sapphire tiara? Archived Message
Posted by Ashdean  on July 23, 2014, 5:03 am, in reply to "Re: Empress Maria Feodorovna's Sapphire tiara?"
It is well documented that the Dowager Empress did not manage to bring out of Russia in 1919 a single tiara.
--Previous Message--
: Hello Johan,
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: which tiara do you mean? The only tiara worn
: by Queen Mary and Princess Margaret is the
: following tiara, which is supposed to have
: come from Empress Maria Feodorovna. As far
: as I know, it was never in the possession of
: the Queen-Mother (but who knows?...). At
: least, the Queen-Mother has never worn it
: publicly.
:
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: I agree this tiara would look great on
: Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge. It is a
: rather small tiara (at least when compared
: to other tiaras in the British collection),
: discret but elegant, regal but not
: overwhelming. And it would make a very nice
: match with the modern design of Diana's
: sapphire set (supposing William, and not
: Harry, has inherited this set).
:
: Nevertheless, I wonder if the attribution to
: Empress Maria Feodorovna is reliable. The
: design and style of the tiara seems rather
: Art Déco (so, after WW1), whereas the
: Empress must have built her collection
: before WW1, when the dominating style was
: Victorian or neo-classical (garland style,
: etc.). Moreover, I do not think we have ever
: seen Empress Maria Feodorovna wearing this
: tiara. What do you think? Are there reliable
: sources to document this attribution to
: Maria Feodorovna?
:
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: --Previous Message--
: I've been wondering why we don't see the
: saphire tiara the Queen inherited from her
: mother more often. It was worn a few times
: by her sister but has not been seen for
: ages. The tiara looked good on Queen Mary
: and might be a very effective choice for HM.
: I had hoped she'd loan it to the Duchess of
: Cambridge to go with her saphire pieces but
: with the scroll/halo tiara and the pearl
: papyrus tiara it's unlikely Catherine will
: be given the use of a third tiara any time
: soon.
:
: --Previous Message--
:
: What would I do to have photos of the 2
: others sapphire and diamonds tiaras owned
: and not worn by her Majesty (from Field)
:
: Best regards,
:
: Franck
:
: --Previous Message--
: I understand your comment (no worry, I have
: not perceived it as a personal negative
: comment against me!).
:
: You are probably right when you stress that
: the big central sapphire looks maybe too
: massive in contrast to the delicate floral
: garland arches. And the vertical position of
: the (too close) three central sapphire drops
: does not help either. I have edited my
: message to introduce a photoshopped version
: of the tiara, with the lateral drops
: slightly bent diagonally, I think it can
: improve the general look of the tiara.
:
: Anyway, I am happy that, when it was decided
: to convert the necklace into a tiara (BTW,
: we do not know if it was made before of
: after the Queen acquired it in 1963), the
: person in charge of the transformation
: respected the original design to the maximum
: and did not indulge in dismantling and
: overhauling thoroughly the design of the
: jewel: he/she respected the history and the
: integrity of the necklace, and I appreciate
: this.
:
: After, all is a question of taste, and I
: know we can "agree on our
: disagreements"... Personally, I like
: this tiara - but I have to say I also like
: Queen Elizabeth's Brazilian Aquamarine Tiara
: or Burmese Ruby Tiara, though so many
: posters here do not like them either... who
: knows, maybe I have very weird tastes!
:
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: --Previous Message--
: Arthur, your politeness is much appreciated
: and by no means my remark was meant as a
: personal dig at your appreciation of the
: parure. I do think though that apart from
: personal taste there are objective criteria
: for the success of a design.
:
: If a necklace is converted permanently into
: a tiara and still awkwardly looks like an
: upside down worn necklace something went
: wrong.
:
: With today's hairdos airy arches in a tiara
: are always a bit difficult to pull off, but
: in this particular case the main problem is
: that they don't correspond with the
: (gorgeous) large rhombical sapphire in the
: centre. That they seem to mirror the
: wearer's eye-brows certainly doesn't help.
: The two lateral square sapphires, which
: could balance the centre stone, disappear in
: the coiffure. IMO the most obvious fault is
: the tin-soldier-like upright position of the
: three central sapphire drops.
:
: All this has to do with the designer's lack
: of talent and skills - or simply his or her
: lazyness to deal with the particular
: problems caused by a conversion of an
: existing piece into something else - and not
: so much with personal taste. I see the same
: problem with the Countess of Wessex's
: wedding tiara and frankly find it quite
: surprising that neither the Queen nor
: somebody in charge with her jewellery would
: have higher demands regarding the (re)design
: of prominent pieces. It's not that nobody
: would be around who was able to meet these
: challenges!
:
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: --Previous Message--
: Just a matter of personal taste, of course,
: but I like this tiara. Of course, it still
: looks like a necklace worn upside-down
: rather than a "real" tiara, but
: the tiara mounting has been cleverly made,
: and the delicate pattern of the
: necklace/tiara fits the Queen's face quite
: well, I think.
:
: I just regret that it does not seem possible
: to turn the tiara into a necklace and
: vice-versa, at will. I would like to see it
: worn in its original form, as a necklace.
:
: I remember someone (I do not remember who,
: sorry) had posted some time ago a
: photoshopped version of the tiara, on which
: the two lateral central sapphire drops were
: mounted diagonally rather than vertically.
: Just a small (virtual) change, but the tiara
: looked better that way. Has someone saved
: this picture?
:
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: The sapphires have a lovely colour, but
: whoever created the tiara should not be
: allowed to come even close to any major
: piece of jewellery ever again.
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