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    Re: Astrid's emeralds Archived Message

    Posted by Vincent on March 8, 2015, 2:46 pm, in reply to "Re: Astrid's emeralds"



    --Previous Message--
    : The rumour is that the peacock tiara has the
    : stones from the emerald cross in it.
    :
    : The part of Lilian having to sell her jewels
    : for her daughter is not true. Most of the
    : jewels at known auctions happened years
    : before her death.If jewels were sold after
    : her death they were of lesser value and
    : importance. The disappearance of the Cartier
    : Flower tiara, The Stockholm tiara and the
    : Emerald Necklace/tiara, the cabochon
    : emeralds... are still unaccounted for.
    :
    : All her children did sell her furniture
    : etc.. at auctions after her death reportely
    : because that one daughter needed money but I
    : think neither one of them really cared for
    : things, regardless of the other ones
    : finances.
    :
    : IMO the grand pieces are gone too. Perhaps a
    : private sale. Anybody with more info is free
    : to span my inbox.
    :
    : Why wouldn't Fabiola wear it? It's not even
    : Lilian's originally. Fabiola did wear
    : astrid's ten provinces one. The emerald
    : tiara was Astrid's too. I just don't see it.
    : It would be nice if it's all still there but
    : I doubt it.
    :
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : I thought Josephine-Charlotte inherited the
    : diamond and emerald earrings and the round
    : emerald and diamond pendant/brooch from her
    : mother. Both pieces have been seen on her.
    : The two other diamond and emerald pieces of
    : the Nassau collection and the art deco
    : bandeau of Grand Duchess Charlotte ordered
    : for her by prince Felix and the peacock
    : necklace/tiara last seen on Marie-Astrid.
    : That was a gift from Jean to
    : Josephine-Charlotte i would be surprised if
    : he as the son and heir of a wealthy dynasty
    : had the need to use the emeralds from Queen
    : Astrid for it.
    :
    : So the big brooch (probably from Empress
    : Carlotta of Mexico), the emerald cross
    : pendant and the emerald necklace/tiara (both
    : from Queen Astrid) were most likely with
    : Fabiola.
    : The necklace/tiara was a gift from Albert I
    : and Elisabeth to Astrid when she gave birth
    : to Boudewijn so it seems likely he inherited
    : the jewel.
    :
    : Most of Lilian's jewels ended up in auction
    : as her oldest daughter wanted/needed the
    : money. Neither princess Marie-Esmeralda nor
    : princess Alexandre were ever seen with
    : Lilian's jewels making it safe to assume
    : they were inherited by Fabiola at a time
    : when she already started to wear less
    : jewels.
    :
    : We don't know what provisions were made for
    : the pieces she had, some may have been
    : inherited directly by Philip others could be
    : part of her inheritance and will be sold
    : (hopefully the King will buy them from her
    : estate so the money can go to the charities
    : Queen Fabiola stipulated as her
    : beneficiaries).
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : I wanted to make myself useful. So I did
    : some
    : collecting of links ( I know how annoyed
    : everybody gets with copyrights and so here)
    : of the brooches of HRH Lilian Baels, the
    : princess of Rethy. It doesn’t mean she owned
    : them but at some point she definitely wore
    : them.
    :
    : 1.The Marie Valerie of Austria brooch:
    : emerald and diamonds
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-u0Eh4ImE-g/TPrIZHb7mhI/AAAAAAAAD64/eWLCi9g-baI/s1600/bl1.jpg
    :
    : 2.The Countess of Flanders brooch: emerald
    : and diamonds
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-u0Eh4ImE-g/TBPb6LP6q2I/AAAAAAAADc8/fZEFPgT8Mw0/s1600/li19%5B1%5D.jpg
    :
    : The origin of this piece is debated. It
    : could possibly be from the Empress Charlotta
    : stash. It’s current where-abouts are an even
    : bigger mystery. Like lots of the jewels seen
    : on Lilian they haven’t been seen in decades.
    : The BRF has a long history of family fueds.
    : That factor probably adds to the confusion.
    :
    : 3.A leaf brooch: ruby?/sapphire and diamonds
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-z-FtQG2xTl4/T-e_xfcfGPI/AAAAAAAAEtE/-augdUTq_fc/s1600/Lildaughters.jpg
    :
    : I suspect it to be this one :
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=420552518002050&set=o.119798121405281&type=3
    :
    : 4.The Jadeite brooch:
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : http://www.tianchengauction.com/site/tiancheng/lot_detail;jsessionid=ABE90E250E9010CEAE5F37F20FFA4B17?lot_id=1100207&referer=list&start=13&num=15#.U7GBNkC0PIY
    :
    : 5: The Ruby VCA brooch:
    :
    : This one exists also in a drawing of an
    : unseen tiara.
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=448253035231998&set=o.119798121405281&type=3
    :
    : 6. Flower multi-gem brooch
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=420551784668790&set=o.119798121405281&type=3
    :
    : 7. Diamond daisy set
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=420552664668702&set=o.119798121405281&type=3
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10202334968789668&set=o.119798121405281&type=3&theater
    :
    : 8. Diamond dear brooch
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=420552834668685&set=o.119798121405281&type=3
    :
    : 9. Unknown diamond? brooch
    :
    :
    :
    : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=363251297065506&set=o.119798121405281&type=3
    :
    : 10. Diamond and pearl brooch
    :
    :
    :
    : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=350238915033411&set=o.119798121405281&type=3
    :
    : 11.Gold brooch
    : Some press reports state that after her dead
    : there where jewelry in her estate auctions
    : by Sotheby’s. I have yet to have someone
    : confirm me that. I do know that some fantasy
    : jewelry was auctioned by some lesser known
    : Brussels-based auction house.
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=350240031699966&set=o.119798121405281&type=3
    :
    : 12.Second diamond dear brooch
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=435933383600&set=o.119798121405281&type=3
    :
    : 13. Unknown brooch
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=433339223600&set=o.119798121405281&type=3
    :
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    :
    :
    : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151653055248601&set=o.119798121405281&type=3
    :
    : 14. Unkown panther? brooch
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152039181623601&set=o.119798121405281&type=3&theater
    :
    : 14. The hair ornament brooch
    : I couldn’t find a clearer pic, there was one
    : in the Vachaudez book
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152025586823601&set=o.119798121405281&type=3&theater
    :
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    :
    : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10202358570379693&set=o.119798121405281&type=3&theater
    :
    : 15. Dragon fly brooch
    :
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    :
    :
    : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=669066589817307&set=o.119798121405281&type=3&theater
    :
    : 16. Small diamond/gemstone crescent? brooch
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=630719070318726&set=o.119798121405281&type=3&theater
    :
    : 17. Cartier flower brooch
    : This brooch was worn to the wedding of
    : Josephine Charlotte. It’s the middle part of
    : the “Cathedral” tiara. A Cartier tiara no
    : longer in the Belgian collection.
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=418824524841516&set=o.119798121405281&type=3
    :
    : 18. Unknown brooch
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    :
    : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=422485497808752&set=o.119798121405281&type=3
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