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    Re: Swedish link: Patricia of Connaught Archived Message

    Posted by Juscha on January 13, 2016, 6:19 pm, in reply to "Re: Swedish link: Patricia of Connaught"

    We have pictures of the Countess of Tankerville with the tiara from 1902 (presentation at court, Coronation of Edward VII.) and one the Countess is sitting in a chair with the tiara worn as a necklace. Corbis dated it "around 1912". http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/IH188063/leonora-sophie-van-marter-countess-of-tankerville
    This could be correct. Or is it a typing error? Hm...

    It is unlikely this tiara has gone to Ida Bennet. If it was part of the family jewels it could not be a wedding gift, I suppose. Lady Dalhousie married 1877 and dies suddenly in 1887, her husband one day late (terrible story, by the way). Her mother Countess Olivia of Tankerville dies in 1922. So if it has been a wedding present to Ida it had to went back to her mother, than to her daughter-in-law in 1899 (when the 6th Earl had died? And than to the Ramsays?? I guess it must have been part of the family jewels because Lady Leonora choose this one in 1902 for the coronation.
    The letter is mysterious. Maybe the Dowager Countess had indeed a better use for the family jewels (and some other things).
    Many if´s...
    If it had been found a way to the Ramsays it could be a wedding gift to Princess Sybilla, (grand)cousin of Patricia Ramsay, and her nephew Gustav Adolph.

    A long shot from Chillingham to Stockholm...

    --Previous Message--
    : Combining that info with the letter that
    : TheRoyalsAndI posted, between the Earl of
    : Athlone and the Countess of Tankerville,
    : gives rise to the possible line of ownership
    : being Olivia Bennett, Countess of
    : Tankerville (daughter of George Montagu, 6th
    : Duke of Manchester and wife of Charles
    : Bennet, 6th Earl of Tankerville) then to her
    : daughter Ida Ramsay, Countess of Dalhousie
    : (wife of John Ramsay, 13th Earl of
    : Dalhousie). This makes since because Ida
    : was her only surviving child other than the
    : 7th Earl, who she apparently did not get
    : along with. It gets a bit sketchy from
    : there as the tiara would have gone to Ida's
    : third son, Alexander Ramsay (wife of
    : Princess Patricia of Connaught) then to
    : Patricia's great nephew, King Carl XVI
    : Gustaf of Sweden. That last jump is the
    : biggest because it would be unusual for the
    : tiara to go to her great-nephew instead of
    : the couple's own son. Of course, at any
    : point the family could have put the tiara up
    : for sale and Carl Gustaf saw an opportunity
    : to buy a family tiara for his wife.
    :
    : Here is some of the letter dated 27 March
    : 1911. That is of course after Edward VII's
    : coronation when the above pictures of
    : Leonora were taken but before George V's
    : coronation. I wonder if the family jewels
    : were all in the possession of the Dowager
    : Countess of Tankerville, what did Leonora
    : wear to the 1911 coronation? Does anyone
    : have any pictures?
    :
    : Athlone writes, in part: "… One of the
    : many schemes I have in hand in connection
    : with "The Price Francis of Teck
    : Memorial Fund" in aid of the Middlesex
    : Hospital is the holding of a Coronation
    : Tiara Exhibition at Messrs. Cartiers'… If
    : only I can obtain the loan of a sufficient
    : number of jewels … I should be most grateful
    : to you if you will be good enough to allow
    : the tiara, which you intend wearing at the
    : Coronation, to be shewn …" The
    : Countess' reply, Signed, "Lenora
    : Tankerville," is penned on the blank
    : sheet. She writes, in part: "…I regret
    : being obliged to reply that although it
    : would give me much pleasure to send anything
    : to use for such a purpose we do not possess
    : a single stone or article of jewelry worth
    : showing. The family jewels “do not exist”
    : because they were stolen by the present
    : Dowager Lady Tankerville and formed a small
    : part of the general plunder of this house
    : & estate of which Her Majesty the Queen
    : knows at least some of the facts…”"
    :


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