Sam's stories aren't as good as Richard's but I enjoy them and hope for Rider's eventual return. We shall see. I will be supporting the Nova brand moving forward.
: Well, that is just a foolish line of
: It is predicated on the idea that if there
: was no Sam then there would be a Richard.
: But that is flawed. If they wanted a
: Richard, they would use him.
: So even if Sam fails (and his run has
: failed; we'll see if he becomes useful in
: the ANAD Avengers) this does not mean that
: Rich is coming back.
: Therefore he is not a THREAT.
: Boycotting Sam does not protect Richard at
: all because the root problem is that they do
: not believe in Richard.
: This is further evidenced by them
: introducing new Novas both in Guardians 3000
: and now in the new Infinity Gauntlet.
: They like the idea of Nova. They do not see
: Richard as a viable character (for whatever
: reasons). If these are boycott then either
: one of two things will happen: a.) They
: will keep reinventing Nova until they find
: one people like or b.) They will give up on
: Frankly the best way to get Richard back is
: to EMBRACE any Nova in print. Make sure
: they know we love the Nova Corps. The more
: we embrace the idea of Nova the better
: chance he has of coming back.
: Boycotting is having the opposite effect of
: what you desire. In a sense, you are part
: of the threat and the (admittedly dumbass)
: Sam Alexander.
: --Previous Message--
: The actual meat (or lack thereof) of the
: series forced me to change. I actually
: wanted to like it. I was a huge John Walker
: fan. I liked Jamie Reyes Blue Beetle. I
: adored Genis-vell. I'm down for change, if
: done right.
: As things rolled on, and I saw marvel
: scramble to make a mess out of the potential
: concept of "Sam Alexander"/Vol.5
: and any potential Nova "mythos "
: contributions. Marvel put 3 different
: writers on the book in 10 issues, and I soon
: learned the book was a "soup
: sandwich" of directionless or generic
: storylines that went nowhere. At times, the
: book felt like some hollow ultimate version
: meant for five year old denizens of Matt
: Judge's Idiocracy reality. (I do reference
: this movie often)
: Sam was a poor character who was not even
: allowed grow on the scale of Wolfman's
: original Richard Rider or Peter Parker,
: characters the model so desperately tried to
: knock off. Marvel brass dubbed Sam a cross
: between" Luke Skywalker and Peter
: Parker"( the exact archetype others
: described Richard Rider as when he debuted
: in the 70s). Problem was they all lied, and
: conveniently left out the fact he was mostly
: "Poochie" from the Simpsons.. Both
: Parker and Skywalker grew, and Sam did not.
: With issue #19 , I called it quits and
: dropped the title.
: At that time, after force feeding myself a
: bad book, I became unable to understand how
: anyone could dig the book, especially fans
: of the old higher brow sci fi DnA/Giffen
: stuff. Out on the internet, there was a sea
: of sophomoric fans of Sam that seemed to be
: hostile to the mere mention of Rider.
: Worse, a very real gestalt Disney/Marvel
: consortium , IMO began a campaign to
: discredit us to force Sam into a bigger
: role. So with Nova. Vol.5 certified in my
: book as being a dumpster fire, I didn't see
: it as expanding any sort of
: "mythos" of Nova or the Nova
: Corps, not in a positive way. Admittedly, I
: became very defensive. This material, was in
: some ways, dangerous to good taste
: Thus, in my view, many of these new Sam fans
: became interlopers , not fellow Nova fans.
: They spit on even the old Rider stuff and ,
: just as malicious, as this so called
: "angry group of Rider fans" . For
: me, embracing them was like making friends
: with my ex-wife's new boyfriend. ..not gonna
: happen. Worse, I felt like they were digging
: something that was not even very good. The
: comic really was lousy.
: Therefore, I began to see supporting Sam's
: poor quality, poor direction book as a
: threat . The whole direction was a threat
: to the stories I wanted out of marvel
: cosmic. Vol. 5 was a threat to what I
: considered future good quality comics at
: marvel. It also was clearly a threat to
: the future of my favorite character, Richard
: And that is some of the core of where we
: are. Are these new Nova series/concepts a
: threat to Rider? I'd answer yes, and there
: are plenty of scenarios we could explore
: that would show why. If Sam catches on,
: marvel cranks out an animated Disney movie
: w/ Sam as Nova, kids eat it up with a straw,
: and good old Richard Rider and gritty
: stories about brothers and sisters in arms
: gets shit canned forevermore. All the Rider
: and DnA era gets stuffed in a gutter pretty
: damn quick...in fact so does the whole
: genre.(and unless your into Star Wars, its
: kinda where we are IMO) It could easily
: happen. Again, the paranoia is reasonable
: when we simply go back in marvel history and
: show when it did happen...because it
: certainly has.
: --Previous Message--
: I have not been enjoying Nova/Sam, at all. I
: think I liked more of the stuff with Carrie,
: than the actual action/Nova stuff. It is
: just a bit too childish for me. I am hoping
: things "grow up" because, at this
: point, I will not be purchasing the Sam
: title after Secret Wars ends, if the Sam
: title returns. I have not liked the art or
: the story, but I have kept reading. But I am
: at the end of my rope. It is not fun for me,
: especially after the great stuff we old
: schoolers had with volume four. That was
: great writing, growth, character
: development, and more up my alley.
: I have no disdain for anyone who still reads
: Sam. I would be a hypocrite if I did,
: because I have bought each one. I am,
: however, a bit sad that Nova has abandoned a
: great character and made the title (and many
: other Marvel titles) way too simple and
: I will read the post-apocalyptic Nova title.
: The art looks great, and the story may be
: more up my alley. But after that, I hope
: things change for the better.
: The funny thing is, Marvel seems very
: committed to the Nova idea. They are trying
: hard to keep it going. But they are not
: putting out a great product, yet.
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