but let me say a few things.
First off , we all can relax, whatever each of us wants, with this creative team, this book will be dead in six months. This writer is getting hammered week after week for his suicide squad.(even by CBR folks). His Nova special book was horrid (IMO at least) and embraced the cycle of making fun of DnA era material.
Next, I want to say how gross some of the talk is on this thread. For some, I am some crazed Rich Rider zealot who has no reasonable sense, to others on here , even many I disagree with, I value a lot of your opinions.
But let me say, the notion of "Aw shucks...Rich is dead forever, oh well he had his day.." is not acceptable.
You don't have to be as angry as me or others, you don't have to hate Sam, man you don;t even have to not buy or boycott, but let me say that attitude to just accept the guy as gone is BS from a fan.
That IS where I draw the line. If you claim to be a Nova fan and then claim you are cool with Rich being dead, that's just not OK.
Wil E is right...this, if this is, in fact, "Jesse Alexander", the move is yet another low down dirty scungy chronicle in this fight. Its actually brainwashing...and from the sound of it, the tactic is working.
From the start, every effort was made to confuse the readers that "Jesse could be Rich" , from his very similar appearance, to the way he talked or went about certain things, from a smattering of other clues we all chatted about 10 issues into this series. In many ways, he seemed like some sort of version of rich who was time flung and never had the Annhilation War experience. But then the fundamental fact the Vol. 5 folks just didn't know who Rich was or what happened in the old books caught up with them..
I'm not going to touch on the more in depth aspects of how canon is basically out the window in Nova et al these days, sorry Wil E, but worrying about worldminds and rank is like worrying about a broken toilet in the plane while the engines have fallen off.
Duggan's crew forgot, the biggest bullsheet factor in this is how everything Rich was built up to, everything he believed in responsible use of the Nova force and training those who wield it has been violated by the lackluster character of Jesse Alexander. If folks don't recall, at one point, Rich chose DEATH over using the force irresponsibly and putting out poorly trained corpsmen. What has gone on with Jesse violates everything. He's no mentor. And if it does turn out to be Rich still, it will be difficult to undue this.
As for what Will E points out , that the Marvel / Disney Hegemony would craft a brown haired rogueish guy with so many other traits of Rich Rider and place him nonsensically in some weird retcon they could not bother to expand on in 30 issues of Vol. 5, just defies all logic. The only explanation is something silly, like the reason Rider is mothballed is because they want to teach uppity fans a lesson or because truly some exec has said no go on a character with the name "Dick Rider". I just don't know.
Please, all i ask is if you are a Rider fan, to keep the faith and keep hammering this
As I now realize, especially looking at this mess of books with 'fightin pregger SPider Women and a host of crazy lineups Marvel is out of its collective mind right now. Its a line wide problem and Rich Rider debacle is only one sad fold in the mess. Look how they are even bleeding creators. Its a mess.
As of now, I won't buy marvel because a fundamental problem with the quality of the product. Rider be damned, I have principles with my hard earned money.
I hope some of you will change your tune. I value a lot of your guys opinions and hope we can still stay resolute on this deal.
We still all need more info before going bonkers...and I'll let that play out before I do as well.
: So Marvel is going back to re-start a bunch of
: #1s and it seems this new "Nova"
: series is part of the so-called "New
: 45"(from what I have been able to
: gather: a collection of covers or ads as
: seen in the new Marvel Previews or similar
: Marvel is pretty adamant about not bringing
: Richard Rider back but are listening to
: fans, and to some degree, disgruntled loyal
: RR fans like myself: Sam Alexander will be
: getting a mentor at it will his father
: Jesse. Jesse will wear his old Xandarian
: Nova Corps uniform and not the Black Ops
: Super Duper suit. I asume Jesse is now the
: new "living legacy" of the old
: Corps and there is no Nova Prime...very
: conveniently doing away with RR the sneaky,
: DIRTY, way.
: Duggan and company will eventually find some
: excuse to do away with a Nova Prime and be
: more independent of a Worldmind. Anything to
: remove themselves of RR and instead
: concentrate on a "Nova brand"
: without any involvement of RR.
: Common sense and logic still dictates that
: the real Xandarian Worldmind is still
: operational in order for Sam's
: mini-Worldmind to syphon its energy from. RR
: absorbed the full Nova Force along with the
: Cosmic Cube to create a gateway for Quill
: and Drax to escape the Cancerverse and that
: combined energy would not just easily burn
: itself out. RR is definitely still alive out
: there, in a sentient cosmic energy form,
: around his last known coordinates.
: Jesse may have been able to resume being a
: Nova Centurion using the
: "mini-Worldmind" but the Nova
: Force must still active in the real
: Worldmind in order for that to be possible.
: No, I don't think the real Worldmind
: downloaded itself to the Black Nova's
: mini-worldmind...but Duggan or any other
: writer could easily find that as the perfect
: way to dust off any more ties with RR. Very
: dirty and sad of Marvel to do so.
: --Previous Message--
: Here's my speculation
: A) Richard Rider is back.
: B) Sam's dad and Sam Alexander only
: C) generation storyline, origin of Jesse to
: Sam Alexander.
: Cb) Jesse Alexander is a Xandarian who
: "gone native" on Earth after he
: crashlanded on it on a training mission
: (hope alien hunters are also interested in
: selling "the last Xandarian and his
: exotic hybrid offpsrings") and showing
: why Jesse decided to stay on Earth rather
: than Xandar, which Grandma Alexander
: (possibly a high ranking Nova) may be pissed
: at his son's choice before Luphimorph blew
: the planet and her to pieces, or Nebula's
: rampage, or eaten by bugs.
: I am gonna pick C and Cb since Marvel need
: to have an alien-human hybrid without
: "my dad impregnated my mom and ditched
: her with an unborn child" and being
: white (at least fully, but Hulkling is kinda
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