--Previous Message-- : Nellie, : : I believe the dates and jewellers that the : Royal Collection are referring to, actually : concern the necklaces that the Queen wears : in the miniatures and portraits. Not the : circlet, which is undoubtedly George IV's : Regal Circlet. : : Rundells 1839 refers to the Turkish : Diamonds, which were a present from the : Sultan and Turkey and made into a necklace : and earrings by Rundells in 1839, she : subsequently wore this to her wedding. : : Garrards 1858 refers to the necklace and : earrings we now know as Queen Victoria's : Collet Necklace, which was made in 1858 by : Garrards using diamonds from the Queen's : collection, to replace Queen Charlotte's : diamond necklace that was lost in the : Hanoverain claim. : : This dates and jewellers do not refer to the : circlet. It is just poor grammar and : sentence structure on the part of the Royal : Collection that leads to that confusion. : : --Previous Message-- : : I was searching the Royal Collection using : “circlet” and am quite confused by the : descriptions given in some of the miniatures : of Queen Victoria. : : Some say she wears a circlet made by : Rundells in 1839 and others say a circlet : made by Garrards in 1858. : : But I would have thought all of these : depicted the Diamond Diadem 1820, which we : used to know as the George IV or State : diadem. : : Anyone agree? : : Plus, if the descriptons are correct then : there are (were) two very very similar : circlets, by different makers, of 1839 and : 1858. : : : : http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/collection/442019 : : : http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/collection/407421 : : : http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/collection/442019 : : : http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/collection/421879 : : : :