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    Re: Circlet and Queen Victoria Archived Message

    Posted by LittleMo on May 4, 2012, 3:20 pm, in reply to "Re: Circlet and Queen Victoria"

    Well this first one would be better if a semi colon used rather than a comma

    A gold Maid of Honour brooch, set with a miniature in diamond-set oval frame of Queen Victoria: bust-length, wearing the robes of the Order of the Garter with the circlet; diamond earrings and necklace made by Rundells in 1839. On pink silk ribbon.

    The second one is easier due to the comma and the and I have put some blank lines in to make it a bit clearer


    She is wearing the Robes of State, the circlet,

    and the earrings and necklace made by Garrard’s, the jewellers, in 1858,

    the year before this was painted.


    In fact in this second one you could think it was just the necklace that Garrards made.

    --Previous Message--
    : That's the way I read it too Boffer,
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : Nellie,
    :
    : I believe the dates and jewellers that the
    : Royal Collection are referring to, actually
    : concern the necklaces that the Queen wears
    : in the miniatures and portraits. Not the
    : circlet, which is undoubtedly George IV's
    : Regal Circlet.
    :
    : Rundells 1839 refers to the Turkish
    : Diamonds, which were a present from the
    : Sultan and Turkey and made into a necklace
    : and earrings by Rundells in 1839, she
    : subsequently wore this to her wedding.
    :
    : Garrards 1858 refers to the necklace and
    : earrings we now know as Queen Victoria's
    : Collet Necklace, which was made in 1858 by
    : Garrards using diamonds from the Queen's
    : collection, to replace Queen Charlotte's
    : diamond necklace that was lost in the
    : Hanoverain claim.
    :
    : This dates and jewellers do not refer to the
    : circlet. It is just poor grammar and
    : sentence structure on the part of the Royal
    : Collection that leads to that confusion.
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    :
    : I was searching the Royal Collection using
    : “circlet” and am quite confused by the
    : descriptions given in some of the miniatures
    : of Queen Victoria.
    :
    : Some say she wears a circlet made by
    : Rundells in 1839 and others say a circlet
    : made by Garrards in 1858.
    :
    : But I would have thought all of these
    : depicted the Diamond Diadem 1820, which we
    : used to know as the George IV or State
    : diadem.
    :
    : Anyone agree?
    :
    : Plus, if the descriptons are correct then
    : there are (were) two very very similar
    : circlets, by different makers, of 1839 and
    : 1858.
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    : http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/collection/442019
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    : http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/collection/407421
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    : http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/collection/442019
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    : http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/collection/421879
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