Re: Puzzle 4- no bandeau base on the original "Girls" tiara ??? Archived Message
Posted by Boffer on May 29, 2012, 6:36 am, in reply to "Puzzle 4- no bandeau base on the original "Girls" tiara ???"
I believe that the base for the Girls of Great Britain tiara is in its original form. It can be seen being worn by Queen Mary, with the base very shortly after her wedding. Furthermore, the easy with which the base could be removed is obvious, as this Girls of Great Britain Tiara was also designed to be worn as a necklace (and Roberts notes that it is also photographed as such in Queen Mary's Jewellery inventory, but he doesn't publish the image). Therefore the base, being original to the tiara, would have been easily detachable. And could easily be attached onto other tiaras. All jewels of this era were hugely versatile. As for the wedding necklace/tiara from Queen Victoria. This is in its original form. The added "base" to this necklace / tiara was worn by Queen Mary on various occasions as either a choker of bandeau, which indicate it was originally part of the jewel that she received as a wedding present. This picture of Queen Mary in her turquoise tiara, clearly show the diamond tiara/necklace with its base being worn as a choker by Queen Mary. http://www.royal-magazin.de/england/queen-mary-turquoise-tiara.htm It is also of note that the turquoise tiara is being worn in its original form, indicating that it was soon after the wedding, and thus the jewels are all in their unaltered form. The base of the Queen Victoria's necklace/tiara can also be seen here, being worn as a bandeau with the aigrette, that was a wedding gift from the Duke of York. http://www.royal-magazin.de/england/queen-mary-kensington-brooch.htm Thus, I believe that the representation of this necklace without the base in the Illustrated London News image of Queen Mary's wedding gifts is incorrect; and that Queen Mary's Photographic jewellery inventory provides a true representation. I believe that both these pieces are photographed in their original form in Queen Mary's Jewellery Inventory. After all, if they had been altered, Queen Mary would have noted this, and therefore Roberts would have been able to see that they weren't in their original form, and he would have noted as such. --Previous Message-- : : I am having grave doubts that Queen Mary's : Girls of Great Britain and Ireland Tiara : [Girls] was originally made with that : loznge-pattern bandeau base. I have doubted : it over the years, actually. : Because it now seems as though one and the : same lozenge-pattern bandeau base was added : to the Surrey tiara/necklace [Surrey], the : QV wedding gift necklace/tiara [QV gift], : and the Girls. : : Page 139 shows the Girls in the photo : inventory with the bandeau base and the : caption says it is in original form. : But I would like to see the design drawing : for the Girls which is mentioned in note 1 : page 136. : The QV wedding gift necklace/tiara shown in : the photo inventory on page 191 with a : bandeau base added does not seem to be in : its original form. : : Do we know when the photo inventory was : started? : : For alterations made to the Girls in 1914, : it says on page 136 - : : "Either at the same date or possibly : later Queen Mary removed the lozenge-pattern : bandeau from the base ... " : : But if it is the same bandeau as added : to the Surrey and to the QV gift, then Queen : Mary had removed the bandeau from the Girls : much earlier than 1914 - or perhaps it was : not even attached before then. : : Queen Mary is wearing the Surrey with the : band in the pic dressed in black in mourning : for Queen Victoria (much earlier than 1914). : See page 194 and below in : http://members2.boardhost.com/royal-jewels/msg/1338140726.html : . : : :
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- QD - 3 Puzzles - Queen Mary necklace/tiara wedding gifts - Surrey and QV - Nellie May 28, 2012, 10:14 pm
- Puzzle 1 - bandeau base added to QV - Nellie May 28, 2012, 10:15 pm
- Puzzle 2 - same bandeau base for Surrey and for QV ? - Nellie May 28, 2012, 10:18 pm
- Puzzle 3 - photo session switches ? - Nellie May 28, 2012, 10:20 pm
- Puzzle 4- no bandeau base on the original "Girls" tiara ??? - Nellie May 29, 2012, 6:17 am
- Re: QD - 5 Puzzles - Queen Mary bandeau - schermsd May 29, 2012, 3:33 pm
- QD - 6 - those pesky bands - Nellie May 30, 2012, 12:24 am
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