Thanks again for the pics. The brooches are certainly very similar. I agree that Queen Mary herself probably knew precisely what she was doing when creating her photographic record.
--Previous Message-- : I myself have seen the page from The Graphic : that illustrates a brooch that they label as : "a jewelled pendant from the people of : richmond". : : It's design is somewhat similar to the : brooch that Roberts labels as 'Queen Mary's : Richmond Brooch'. However I am in no doubt : to believe Roberts as he consulted the : authoritative source of Queen Mary's Jewels : (her own notes). : : The brooch illustrated in the Graphic, I : assume is perhaps the 'Surrey Brooch', it is : more than possible that the Graphic made a : mistake in its labelling, just as now the : press have been known to make mistakes. The : one person who is most likely to not make : mistakes is Queen Mary herself. : : Here is the image taken from the Graphic, I : am inclined to believe this captioning less : reliable than Roberts. Although looking at : the design, it is clear that the two : brooches were confused by the contemporary : press as they are so similar (it is not : clear which brooch this is). Just like : today, speculation on these boards, or : factual inaccuracies perpetuate in other : publications, I believe this is the same : case with this captioning of this brooch. : : : : --Previous Message-- : : I'm not disputing your remarks Boffer but I : note that Ursula's page mentions some : contemporary press sources. : I don't have them here in our main library. : : I wonder if Laura M could clarify for us : what those sources said at the time please. : : : --Previous Message-- : I believe without a shadow of a doubt the : information supplied by Roberts, we have to : remember that unlike all previous : publications, Roberts had unparalleled : access to the Royal Archives, most important : Queen Mary's Photographic jewellery : inventory, which has clear pictures and : detailed notes on each piece of jewelley. : : Queen Mary herself will have known which : brooch was a gift from Surrey and which was : a gift from Richmond and she would have thus : labelled them accordingly. It is from these : indisputable sources that Roberts draws his : information. : : Thus I have unqualified trust in the : validity and credibility of Robert's : publication and information. Thus this : brooch was a gift from The Town of Richmond, : and is thus known as 'Queen Mary's Richmond : Brooch'. : : : : :