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    Re: QD - more info from Ursula Archived Message

    Posted by Nellie on July 13, 2012, 1:41 am, in reply to "Re: QD - more info from Ursula"


    Thanks again for the pics.
    The brooches are certainly very similar.
    I agree that Queen Mary herself probably knew precisely what she was doing when creating her photographic record.

    --Previous Message--
    : I myself have seen the page from The Graphic
    : that illustrates a brooch that they label as
    : "a jewelled pendant from the people of
    : richmond".
    :
    : It's design is somewhat similar to the
    : brooch that Roberts labels as 'Queen Mary's
    : Richmond Brooch'. However I am in no doubt
    : to believe Roberts as he consulted the
    : authoritative source of Queen Mary's Jewels
    : (her own notes).
    :
    : The brooch illustrated in the Graphic, I
    : assume is perhaps the 'Surrey Brooch', it is
    : more than possible that the Graphic made a
    : mistake in its labelling, just as now the
    : press have been known to make mistakes. The
    : one person who is most likely to not make
    : mistakes is Queen Mary herself.
    :
    : Here is the image taken from the Graphic, I
    : am inclined to believe this captioning less
    : reliable than Roberts. Although looking at
    : the design, it is clear that the two
    : brooches were confused by the contemporary
    : press as they are so similar (it is not
    : clear which brooch this is). Just like
    : today, speculation on these boards, or
    : factual inaccuracies perpetuate in other
    : publications, I believe this is the same
    : case with this captioning of this brooch.
    :
    :
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    :
    : I'm not disputing your remarks Boffer but I
    : note that Ursula's page mentions some
    : contemporary press sources.
    : I don't have them here in our main library.
    :
    : I wonder if Laura M could clarify for us
    : what those sources said at the time please.
    :
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : I believe without a shadow of a doubt the
    : information supplied by Roberts, we have to
    : remember that unlike all previous
    : publications, Roberts had unparalleled
    : access to the Royal Archives, most important
    : Queen Mary's Photographic jewellery
    : inventory, which has clear pictures and
    : detailed notes on each piece of jewelley.
    :
    : Queen Mary herself will have known which
    : brooch was a gift from Surrey and which was
    : a gift from Richmond and she would have thus
    : labelled them accordingly. It is from these
    : indisputable sources that Roberts draws his
    : information.
    :
    : Thus I have unqualified trust in the
    : validity and credibility of Robert's
    : publication and information. Thus this
    : brooch was a gift from The Town of Richmond,
    : and is thus known as 'Queen Mary's Richmond
    : Brooch'.
    :
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