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    Material of the tiara and the hessian wedding gift Archived Message

    Posted by Juscha on November 6, 2013, 3:46 am, in reply to "Re: Queen Alexandra's tiara from her wedding parure (Rundell tiara)"

    As far I can see there is nothing said about the material but about the stones.

    The Landgraf of Hesse gift:
    http://www.royal-magazin.de/england/queen-alexandra/queen-gold-ornaments.htm


    --Previous Message--
    : Queen Alexandra's wedding tiara was not made
    : in gold and silver as proven by one part of
    : the list of wedding presents given to then
    : H.R.H. the Princess Alexandra of Denmark on
    : her marriage to H.R.H. The Prince of Wales.
    :
    : Source: Library of Congress.
    :
    : From "Daily Ohio Statesman"
    : (Columbus, Ohio) dated April 12, 1863.
    :
    : (Direct quotes)
    :
    : Her Majesty Queen Victoria's gift:
    :
    : A parure of very large and fine opals and
    : brilliants, consisting of three circular
    : brooches, pair earrings, cross and
    : bracelets--from designs created by the
    : Prince Consort (Prince Albert).
    :
    : H.M. Queen Victoria's gift:
    :
    : The Victoria and Albert badge---form of a
    : fine Oriental onyx, with portraits of
    : Victoria and Albert encircled by a border of
    : fine brilliants and surmounted by a crown of
    : diamonds with a carved ruby cap.
    :
    : H.M. Queen Victoria's gift:
    :
    : A suit of Indian ornaments of pearls,
    : emeralds and diamonds, consisting of a
    : corsage, a pair of bracelets, and an armlet,
    : six Indian shawls, one gold tissue shawl,
    : several pieces of satin and velvet unmade.
    :
    : His Royal Highness The Prince of Wales'
    : gift:
    :
    : A fine pearl and diamond necklace, formed of
    : 8 circular clusters of brilliants, with a
    : large pearl in the center of each, and
    : connected by festoons of diamonds; from each
    : of the 3 principal clusters is suspended a
    : fine pair shaped pearl; a brooch of oblong
    : form, with 3 very fine pearls set with large
    : brilliants, and 3 large and fine pearls
    : pendant; a pair of earrings to match.
    :
    : A DIADEM OF FINE BRILLIANTS; THE CIRCLET IS
    : FORMED OF 2 ROWS, WITH 10 LARGE BRILLIANTS,
    : EQUI-DISTANT; IT IS SURMOUNTED BY SCROLL
    : ORNAMENTS, HAVING IN THE CENTER OF EACH A
    : LARGE DROP-SHAPED BRILLIANT; THESE ARE
    : CONNECTED BY GREEK DEVICES, ALSO IN
    : BRILLIANTS. THE VARIOUS PIECES ARE MADE TO
    : FORM SEPARATE ORNAMENTS (AT??) PLEASURE.
    :
    : A waist clasp formed of 2 large turquoises,
    : inlaid with Arabic characters and mounted in
    : gold in Oriental style; a very handsome
    : Corbeille de Noces, some of the articles in
    : which were made by the ladies at Windsor.
    :
    : Their Royal Highnesses The Crown Prince and
    : Crown Princess of Prussia (The Crown
    : Princess being Victoria, Princess Royal)'s
    : gift:
    :
    : Portraits (three quarter size) of Victoria
    : and her husband, the Crown Prince of
    : Prussia.
    :
    : Her Royal Highness The Crown Princess of
    : Prussia (Victoria, Princess Royal)'s gift
    :
    : A round gold locket, with raised letters
    : "Victoria" from a design created
    : by the Princess Royal.
    :
    : Their Serene Highnesses The Prince and
    : Princess Louis of Hesse (Louis and Alice)'s
    : gift
    :
    : A bracelet of turquoises and brilliants,
    : with the cypher "L.A." in diamonds
    : on crystal.
    :
    : Their Royal Highnesses The Prince Alfred,
    : The Princess Helena, The Prince Arthur, The
    : Prince Leopold and The Princess Beatrice's
    : gift:
    :
    : An oval brilliant pendant, having in the
    : center 5 sapphires in the form of a cross
    : and a fine pearl suspended.
    :
    : Her Royal Highness The Duchess of
    : Cambridge's gift
    :
    : A flower pattern brilliant brooch, with
    : emeralds forming the centers of the flowers
    : and buds.
    :
    : Her Royal Highness Princess Mary of
    : Cambridge's gift
    :
    : A handsome bracelet, the clasp of which is
    : of enamel and diamonds.
    :
    : His Royal Highness The Duke of Cambridge's
    : gift
    :
    : A broad wove gold band bracelet, with blue
    : enamel and diamond center and plume.
    :
    : Her Highness the Princess Hohenlohe's gift:
    :
    : A beautiful painted fan mount, representing
    : an outdoor skating (area), a ballrooom, and
    : a concert; a similar mount, representing a
    : group in the costumes of Louis XV's period.
    :
    : His Majesty The King of the Belgians' gift
    :
    : A dress of beautiful and costly Brussels
    : lace, with scarf and handkerchief to match.
    :
    : His Majesty The King of Denmark's gift
    :
    : A necklace of pearls and diamonds in 5
    : divisions with festoons of pearls connecting
    : ornaments of gold, with a large brilliant in
    : the center of each. The center of the
    : necklace is formed of scroll-work in
    : diamonds, with one round and two large
    : pearls, and responded to two very large
    : pearls, fascimile of the cross of Dagmar,
    : tastefully executed in enamel, ornamented
    : with pearls and diamonds. The style of the
    : necklace is Byzantine.
    :
    : Her Royal Highness The Grand Duchess of
    : Mecklenburg's gift
    :
    : A gold bracelet and locket pendant, with
    : diamonds in their center.
    :
    : Their Majesties The King and Queen of
    : Prussia's gift
    :
    : A large vase of china, the middle of which
    : contains the portrait of the King. The base,
    : top and handles (are) all richly gilt.
    :
    : His Highness The Landgrave William of Hesse
    : and His Sisters' gift
    :
    : An antique gold parure, diadem, necklace,
    : bracelet, brooch and earrings. (What
    : diadem??? )
    :
    : H.R.H. The Duchess of Glucksburg's gift
    :
    : An old enameled watch with diamond borders,
    : front and back.
    :
    : The Maharajah Duleep Singh's gift
    :
    : A bouquet holder of carved crystal, with
    : pearls and corals introduced. On a stem is a
    : band of emeralds and diamonds, and a jeweled
    : coronet. The foot is formed of a ball of
    : crystal, with rubies and diamonds, By
    : turning the ball, the foot springs open into
    : 4 supports, in each of which is a plume and
    : a sycher (sp?). Attached to a holder is a
    : chain of gold and pearls, and a hoop ring of
    : 8 pearls.
    :
    : The gift of the ladies and gentlemen of
    : Queen Victoria's household
    :
    : A richly chased silver-gilt toliet service
    : in the Queen Anne style. There are various
    : items. One toliet glass---the principal
    : object of the service---has a frame, at the
    : top of which is the cypher and Danish
    : coronet of H.R.H. The Princess Alexandra,
    : surmounted by two winged figures bearing the
    : Prince of Wales plume, which they were about
    : to place upon the cypher of Princess
    : Alexandra. At the foot of the glass are the
    : full arms, supporters and crown of The
    : Princess of Wales.
    :
    : End of quotes.
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : The so-called Rundell Diadem, which was in
    : fact by Garrards, has been inherited by
    : Princess Victoria who sold it. I´m at work
    : now, but I guess it´s mentioned in "The
    : Queen´s jewels" and there are
    : informations about it at Ursulas´ great
    : webpage.
    :
    :
    : http://www.royal-magazin.de/england/queen-alexandra/alexandra-rundell-tiara.htm
    :
    : It would not be the first time a european
    : jewel had been copied in the east. Who is
    : the Lady?
    :
    : Although the similarity is striking on the
    : first look I would be very surprised if the
    : Wedding Tiara of Princess, later Queen
    : Alexandra, had been made of gold and silver
    : in this way. Usually the stones were set in
    : silver and an mounted in gold. But one
    : element in gold and one in silver? It looks
    : indeed like a copy adapted to the eastern
    : taste. Besides the different base the greek
    : elements of the original wedding tiara seems
    : to be wider in range.
    : If that would have been the original wedding
    : tiara of QA, I could understand why Princess
    : Victoria sold it.
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : But the band could have been altered, by
    : Princess Victoria or by one of the other
    : owners...
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : The tiara no doubt was inspired by Queen
    : Alexandras but it certainly is not it.
    : The band is vastly inferior to the Queens in
    : size of stone and workmanship.
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    : Could this tiara be Queen Alexandra's tiara
    : from her wedding gift parure (frequently
    : known as the Rundell tiara)?
    :
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=278185&d=1311276233
    : It's very similar to Queen Alexandra's
    : tiara, I can see only some differences in
    : the base (which could have been altered).
    : There's both yellow and white gold, but I
    : think we don't know the exact color of the
    : queen's tiara since photographs at that time
    : where only black and white.
    : Now we know that Princess Victoria inherited
    : the tiara, so she could have sold it.
    : Sorry if that question was already posted.
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