Crown rubies Archived Message
Posted by joye  on April 10, 2014, 1:16 am, in reply to "Re: 'Rubies' in necklace worn by Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother"
In 1902 Q Alexandra had the opal necklace and earrings set with Burmese rubies- stones given herself and Q Victoria by Indian rulers. 2 opal brooches were also set with rubies. refer P 138 Fields
Q Mary ruby cluster earrings for her 59th birthday gift from her husband George V have also been left to The Crown refer page 141 Fields
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: I am intrigued.
: Neither Queen Alexandra or Queen Mary was
: ever photographed wearing these 'ruby'
: jewels.
: If the jewels existed in their present form,
: why wouldn't either have used such a
: spectacular necklace and the brooches - even
: if they didn't wear long earrings or favour
: the design of the tiara?
: I have read the explanation that Queen Mary
: didn't favour rubies; yet, she has been
: photographed wearing the Rose of York
: bracelet and the King gave her large ruby
: earring which she gave to the Crown.
: Field says that Queen Alexandra used rubies
: given to her and to Queen Victoria; however,
: I have not found any evidence of Queen
: Victoria wearing jewels with large rubies,
: and the stones seem too well matched to have
: come in piecemeal - so as to speak.
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: Is there any definite evidence prior to the
: time QEQM became Queen Consort that the
: jewels had been reset by Queen Alexandra?
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: Oh yes Joye. Thanks for the reminder. I
: always smile at the "Mummy"
: remark.
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: I recall thinking when it was reported that
: the Oriental Circlet was chiefly concerned,
: because we saw it worn so often.
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: I always imagine that representatives of
: both households probably held some earnest
: discussions, but so many of the heirlooms of
: the Crown stayed with the Queen Mother
: regardless.
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: --Previous Message--
: These rubies are The Crown Rubies. The Queen
: Mother held onto them until her death. The
: Queen was said to say Mummy will give them
: back.
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: Beth, I think it would be this necklace you
: write about?
: I had never thought about the size of the
: rubies before.
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: The discussion in the thread below regarding
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: 'ruby' necklace given by the people of South
: Australia to The Princess of Wales
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: http://members2.boardhost.com/royal-jewels/msg/1396825169.html
: has resurrected a query I have always had
: regarding the 'rubies' in the necklace QEQM
: so frequently wore with the Oriental circlet
: tiara.
: The stones seem to be very evenly matched
: for colour and their size would make them
: outstanding, if they were rubies.
: It is said that Queen Alexandra exchanged
: the opals in QV's necklace and tiara for
: rubies. Unless the setting was changed
: completely, I think it would be very
: difficult to find so many large rubies of
: the required sizes which matched.
: If Queen Victoria had large rubies, I
: suspect she would have had them set in
: various pieces of jewellery. The only ruby
: jewels I am aware she had have small rubies.
: Even the rubies in the jewellery belonging
: to Grand Duchess Marie of Russia (Duchess of
: Edinburgh), were not of a great size. Her
: father, the Emperor would have had the
: resources to purchase large rubies, if large
: matched rubies were available.
: I have often wondered if the rubies in the
: necklace worn by QEQM are spinels.
: What do other posters think?
: Does anyone have an image of QV wearing the
: Opal necklace? I have only seen an image of
: the brooch which she wore with the Oriental
: circlet.
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